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The US is detaining refugees and asylum seekers and forcibly separating families The US is detaining refugees and asylum seekers and forcibly separating families

02-15-2019 , 02:23 PM
02-15-2019 , 02:48 PM
Can someone involved in the war on drugs be tried for war crimes?
02-15-2019 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
Can someone involved in the war on drugs be tried for war crimes?
If this is something that happens in the real world it means federal prosecutors will be charging drug dealers and users with war crimes. You have to lose the war (not in the sense that it's a pointless waste, but in the sense that someone took away your guns) before you can be charged for war crimes.
02-15-2019 , 03:56 PM
I'm afraid you're right.
02-19-2019 , 01:29 PM
45 year old Mexican man dies in border patrol custody after requesting medical help twice

To be fair, they did take him to the hospital, but...

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According to a statement Monday from the agency, the unnamed adult was apprehended on Feb. 2 for “illegal reentry,” which means the individual had tried to enter the country at least once before. The migrant came into contact with authorities near a port of entry in Roma, Tex., about 50 miles northwest of McAllen.

The detainee requested medical attention and was transported to a hospital in Mission, Tex., adjacent to McAllen. The same day, the individual was cleared to travel and sent back to a CBP station in Rio Grande City, close to Roma.

On Feb. 3, the detainee again requested medical attention, and, according to CBP, was transported to the McAllen Medical Center “shortly thereafter.” The Mexican national was diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver and congestive heart failure and remained at the 441-bed hospital from Feb. 3 until dying just before 9 a.m. Monday.
Feb. 2: you're good to go, discharged
Feb. 3: oh, whoops, looks like you're dying of liver and heart failure
02-27-2019 , 10:43 AM
Sexual Assault Of Detained Migrant Children Reported In The Thousands Since 2015

Some might say that this is a misleading headline because the vast majority of these are child-on-child. I say that they have buried the lede: 178 were against staff.

Others will say "But this includes time under Obama, everybody did it!" Fine, I didn't love him either. Under Obama, Trump, or anyone else, this was and is being done in our names with our money by our country.

Stop imprisoning children for the crime of being brought by their families from terrible hardship, THROUGH terrible hardship, in search of a better life. Abolish ICE. Open the borders. Nobody is illegal on stolen land.
02-27-2019 , 01:11 PM
Amen.
02-27-2019 , 09:26 PM
Creating terrorists in 15 years.
03-04-2019 , 05:50 PM
Why Are Separated Families Told They Must Use a Tiny Georgia Travel Agency to Reunite?
One day last August, a Guatemalan construction worker named Adolfo, living in New York City, received a phone call he’d been eagerly anticipating—one that many migrant parents are still awaiting. In the next 24 hours, Adolfo’s 15-year-old son, Allan, would be eligible for release, after being held for about two months in Brownsville, Texas, at the Casa Padre facility run by Southwest Key, a nonprofit that runs shelters for unaccompanied minor immigrants whom U.S. border authorities have separated from their parents. All Adolfo had to do, the Southwest Key case manager on the phone with him said, was to make travel arrangements for his son through Copacabana Travel Management, a small firm in Lawrenceville, Georgia, about 30 miles northeast of Atlanta. With the clock ticking, Adolfo made the call.

The only option Copacabana quoted to him, Adolfo said, was a $1,030 ticket—much more than he could afford on his modest salary. He asked Southwest Key if he could make travel arrangements without using Copacabana. According to Adolfo, Southwest Key said he could not.

Adolfo called a woman he had heard about from friends: a former social worker in New York City named Julie Schwietert Collazo.

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Hearing Adolfo’s story, Collazo worried he might have been confused by the directions, so she called Southwest Key herself. Southwest Key told her that Adolfo needed to use Copacabana. He could not pick the child up at the Brownsville facility, Collazo recalled them saying, and he could not use donated airline miles to pay for the ticket. Adolfo didn’t want his son to wait in detention while he scheduled a slightly cheaper flight weeks away. The Southwest Key representative also made no mention of a federal waiver available to parents and sponsors in cases when they cannot afford the travel arrangements themselves, and Collazo, at the time, didn’t know waivers were available.

Collazo’s antennae went up at the notion that anyone should be required to book travel through a mom-and-pop travel agency in Georgia. To get the best deal she could for Adolfo, Collazo decided to make the arrangements for him, and called Copacabana. “And it’s just weird,” she said. “When I called, they just said, ‘Hello?’ Not, like, ‘This is Copacabana, how can I help you?’” The business has no website. Google says it is open “24 hours.” When the office is closed, those trying to reach Copacabana get a busy signal rather than a voicemail.
03-04-2019 , 06:12 PM
Reminds me of the mom and pop electrical company (from Montana?) that was supposed to rebuild the electrical grid in Puerto Rico.
03-06-2019 , 12:40 PM
Kirstjen Nielsen currently testifying before Homeland Security Committee.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?458250...urity&live
03-06-2019 , 02:23 PM
From the ~30 minutes I was able to stomach:

R: Emergency?
Nielson: Yes.
D: Cages?
Nielson: No.
D: I saw cages, you saw cages. Are there still cages?
Nielson: Those are not cages.
R: Ohioans are dying from heroin. I pronounce people dead.
Nielson: ...
D: How many terrorists at northern border compared to southern border?
Nielson: Classified.
R: Bipartisanship!? Dems never cooperated.
Chair: When you had power you jerked us around so we voted no.
D: When did you know cages are bad for kids?
Nielson: I'll have to get back to you.
D: The AG said children would be separated. Policy?
Nielson: No policy. Policy was to arrest criminals. Not my fault criminals have kids.
R: So much rape.
Nielson: ...

At some point it was mentioned all girls over 10 were given pregnancy tests because of all the rape.

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03-06-2019 , 05:10 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1103356329576595461
03-06-2019 , 09:09 PM
Of course they just accidentally left them in there when they clocked out!
03-07-2019 , 01:01 PM
So new numbers are coming out and the amount of illegal immigrants coming in was 75,000 in Feb and the last 4 months the numbers are large. In reality these are refugees as many are fleeing gang violence and many other factors in their countries.
I don't know what the US solution is as this number is not going to slow down.
Yes you can call them cages as they are chain link
Were should the government house them?
Also I think Republicans thought if they see were they will be detained that will stop them. When in reality its not as it is still better than they have.
03-07-2019 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
So new numbers are coming out and the amount of illegal immigrants coming in was 75,000 in Feb and the last 4 months the numbers are large. In reality these are refugees as many are fleeing gang violence and many other factors in their countries.
I don't know what the US solution is as this number is not going to slow down.
Were should the government house them?
In any of the cities that have said they welcome refugees? California loves taking in refugees:
California has welcomed about 112,000 refugees in the last 15 years, according to the State Department. They have resettled in more than 440 California cities and unincorporated communities.
03-07-2019 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
In any of the cities that have said they welcome refugees? California loves taking in refugees:
California has welcomed about 112,000 refugees in the last 15 years, according to the State Department. They have resettled in more than 440 California cities and unincorporated communities.

That is in 15 years. Canada has taken many also and I would be good taking some of these refugees as well. But at this pace you would have 15 years worth in two months.

Sadly I think you need to solve the issue of why they are coming but that is a mess in its own right. I am curious how the Democrats will handle this if they win in 2020
03-07-2019 , 02:58 PM
They will continue everything Trump did and never mention it to the press. The US government has been escalating enforcement against migrants since Reagan signed off on amensty, and it has scarcely mattered who was in the White House since.
03-07-2019 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
That is in 15 years. Canada has taken many also and I would be good taking some of these refugees as well. But at this pace you would have 15 years worth in two months.
Even if we take that number as accurate and imagine a scenario where 75,000 refugees are arriving every month it's still a manageable number. We have tons of open space people can live in.
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Sadly I think you need to solve the issue of why they are coming but that is a mess in its own right. I am curious how the Democrats will handle this if they win in 2020
We need to stay the **** out of meddling with Central and South America.

      
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