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Originally Posted by [Phill]
The Syria debate, vote and fallout has been eye opening.
So one side of the debate has a political leader of the opposition making a speech of his career, one of the best in a decade. The other side has jpgs with one line jokes posted by unilad on Facebook.
The number of people who don't even know we already were bombing IS in Iraq thinking they have informed opinions about how if we just appease them and not bomb in Syria they will leave us alone is crazy. Someone even quoted their eight year old child who summed it up in a way they could understand and they were super proud, like they thought their kid knew the answer to the Syria crisis.
Nice absolute strawman and really intellectually honest reduction of the arguments made against bombing Syria to posts on FB.
A new low for this thread, a thread in which RM posts often, so really saying something.
Watched most of the debate. No one mentioned afaik that the so called 70K "troops" we need to defeat ISIS on the ground are being bombed by the Russians.
So we are now entering a conflict where our strategic proxy is being bombed by a nuclear super power.
Also ISIS were called a death cult. Cameron did not mention that a specific tenet of that "death" cult is that an Islamic army will defeat the army of Rome in Syria and thus bring on the Apocalypse.
There ****ing newsletter is named after the town in which this apocalyptic final battle takes place. Choosing to bomb ISIS is a specific fulfillment of their religious prophecy.
They want us to bomb them because they are not a death cult, they are a War cult. A cult of war. The whole telos of their world view is war, it is their ultimate metaphysical goal made concrete in the world.
So now we are entering a theater of the absurd which sees an apocalyptic war cult gleefully fist pumping the opportunity afforded it by having the war planes of numerous nuclear powers flying overhead with competing and conflicting agendas.
ISIS exists as an idea, an ideology, that is its material starting point, however much you bomb their infrastructure, each bomb is energy and input for their ideology.
This is also ignoring that their only very weak moderate Sunni resistance groups as alternatives to ISIS. Only a Sunni group will be able to take power in large areas of Syria, at the moment the strongest groups not called ISIS are Al Queada and the Muslim Brotherhood. Who will happily fill any void if there is any real power degradation to ISIS caused by the bombing.
Its total whack a mole.
Bombing ISIS is simply ******ed.
Upside is really limited, downside is near infinite.
Last edited by O.A.F.K.1.1; 12-05-2015 at 04:28 AM.