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03-23-2019 , 12:57 PM
Porn block coming next month, straight out of Theresa May's policy book.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...set-start.html

Now if you want to wax the dolphin you will have to open yourself up to credit card fraud/blackmail/data gathering

75% of brits apparently unaware

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/technolo...ght-their-pant

Last edited by SootedPowa; 03-23-2019 at 01:08 PM.
03-24-2019 , 03:40 PM
Some news that probably won't interest the Islamophobia-agnostic:

Tory Islamophobia row: 15 suspended councillors quietly reinstated

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More than a dozen Conservative councillors who were suspended over posting Islamophobic or racist content online – with some describing Saudis as “sand peasants” and sharing material comparing Asian people to dogs – have had their membership quietly reinstated, a Guardian investigation has found.

The chairman of the Conservative Muslim Forum, Mohammed Amin, called on the party to publish a set of formal disciplinary processes after the Guardian found 15 examples of politicians who posted content that was deemed objectionable.

The findings come amid growing concerns over the Conservative party’s attitude to reports of Islamophobia in a febrile wider climate, with the number of hate crimes against Muslims reported to have risen by 593% in the week after the attack on two New Zealand mosques.
Tory members' online comments deepen Islamophobia row
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The Labour mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, told the Observer on Sunday that he had been repeatedly subjected to anti-Muslim abuse from the Tory party’s members and supporters.
03-24-2019 , 04:07 PM
I think there's literally zero "Islamophobia-agnostic" posters itt, unless you're referring to the time you implied I was Islamophobic for not mentioning Tory Islamophobia the post after I mentioned Tory Islamophobia.

Plenty of anti-Semitism deniers itt but you never seem to mention them which means you hate Jews right?
03-25-2019 , 02:30 AM
I wonder if hate crimes increased 593% or if reports of hate crimes increased 593%.

I dont know which answer I prefer. Its super ****ed up regardless.
03-25-2019 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
I wonder if hate crimes increased 593% or if reports of hate crimes increased 593%.

I dont know which answer I prefer. Its super ****ed up regardless.
With hate crime in general, the smart money suggests that it's a bit of both, with perhaps more emphasis on better police recording/better environment to report. In this report (https://assets.publishing.service.go...8-hosb2018.pdf) [p.7] you can see that hate crimes are steadily rising but the Crime Survey for England & Wales has it as steadily declining. For the most part, the latter is considered a better indication of "true crime". But the fact that they're converging may suggest they're meeting somewhere close to the real figure.

It's also worth noting the rarity of religious based hate crime - 9% for 17-18, so a gigantic rise, while ****ed up in any scenario, may be just a handful of incidents if taken over a small sample (like a week after a terror attack).

That being said, it is (unfortunately) typical to see a spike in anti Muslim hate crime after Islamist terror attacks (https://assets.publishing.service.go...7-hosb1717.pdf) [p.7], so this wouldn't surprise me either
03-25-2019 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SootedPowa
Porn block coming next month, straight out of Theresa May's policy book.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...set-start.html

Now if you want to wax the dolphin you will have to open yourself up to credit card fraud/blackmail/data gathering

75% of brits apparently unaware

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/technolo...ght-their-pant
that will be down to an eu directive surely?

The uk can't make (bad) decisions like this on their own? We don't have any sovereignty, I was told.
03-25-2019 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by joejoe1337
With hate crime in general, the smart money suggests that it's a bit of both, with perhaps more emphasis on better police recording/better environment to report. In this report (https://assets.publishing.service.go...8-hosb2018.pdf) [p.7] you can see that hate crimes are steadily rising but the Crime Survey for England & Wales has it as steadily declining. For the most part, the latter is considered a better indication of "true crime". But the fact that they're converging may suggest they're meeting somewhere close to the real figure.

It's also worth noting the rarity of religious based hate crime - 9% for 17-18, so a gigantic rise, while ****ed up in any scenario, may be just a handful of incidents if taken over a small sample (like a week after a terror attack).

That being said, it is (unfortunately) typical to see a spike in anti Muslim hate crime after Islamist terror attacks (https://assets.publishing.service.go...7-hosb1717.pdf) [p.7], so this wouldn't surprise me either
To be clear, this is a 3x spike in anti Muslim hate crime after a terror attack against Muslims by a white supremacist, not an Islamic terror attack.
03-25-2019 , 04:09 AM
No I know, but there are good arguments as to why both would embolden the far right
03-25-2019 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
I think there's literally zero "Islamophobia-agnostic" posters itt, unless you're referring to the time you implied I was Islamophobic for not mentioning Tory Islamophobia the post after I mentioned Tory Islamophobia.

Plenty of anti-Semitism deniers itt but you never seem to mention them which means you hate Jews right?
Its nothing to do with this thread though and I am baffled why poster keep refering to themselves and this threads posting culture in light of this issue. What happens ITT is irrelevant obviously.

A point I had to make several times when I last raised this issue. Also its nothing to do with whataboutism, which is just another lazy response.

The point is the massively disproportionate response in mejda and wider society to anti semitism in the Labour party and Islamophobia in the Tory party.

If Labour had been as anti Semetic as the Tory party had been islamophobic the Labour party would probably not exist now, if any important member of the Labour party had said an AS analogue of "Women in the burka look like letterboxes" no way would that person still have a public life and EV at becoming Prime Minister.

The issue is the perception and reaction to the two different prejudices and how one party gets shat on from a greater height for lesser offences.

Not by posters ITT though, because our posts dont actually effect anything, hard to believe I know.
03-25-2019 , 07:30 AM
Good joke in latest Bugle podcast:

'Jeremy Corbyn immediately left the party leaders meeting when he saw Chuka Umunna. I didn't even know Umunna was Jewish! '
03-25-2019 , 07:56 AM
My favourite was that if Chukka wanted Jeremy to attend that he should get himself a paramilitary wing, which is basically a prerequisite for getting Corbyn to meet anyone.
03-25-2019 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
My favourite was that if Chukka wanted Jeremy to attend that he should get himself a paramilitary wing, which is basically a prerequisite for getting Corbyn to meet anyone.
03-25-2019 , 02:10 PM


^^This^^
03-25-2019 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
read something a while back from some lehmann quant bigwig who said their models suggested that what happened was a 9 sigma event, ie something which happens approx once every 10 trillion years

is possible he was lying to try to cover his own arse. but if not then some very smart people made some very large ****ups in this area

or possibly we just got super unlucky

10 sigma sometimes



WARNING: contains poker-related material.
03-25-2019 , 03:17 PM
The major problem is they didn't fully understand the risks even on products that they did fully understand. Specifically that they were creating correlations that tended to 1 in places where correlations had previously not existed (or were negligible)

or more pithily - their own positions/strategies became the trade.
03-25-2019 , 04:17 PM
I think I once read that the paperwork of some particular important derivative (probably some CDOs) + the nested paperwork of its underlying securities could not possibly be read (and therefore understood) by anyone in the time available. Or maybe even in the time the universe has existed or something
03-25-2019 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Derivatives are always gambling, by definition it is a gamble on something performing well or not.
No, that's way too narrow. Or actually, I agree but that's not what most people mean by gambling.

Even my home insurance is a derivative that pays off based on changes in the value of my possessions. You can call it gambling, I am betting I'll get robbed, but I don't think most people use those words that way.
03-25-2019 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexdb
No, that's way too narrow. Or actually, I agree but that's not what most people mean by gambling.

Even my home insurance is a derivative that pays off based on changes in the value of my possessions. You can call it gambling, I am betting I'll get robbed, but I don't think most people use those words that way.
In the specific case being discussed it was like buying fire insurance on houses that were already on fire, from sellers who priced it as if they had almost no chance of catching fire.

The risk I was referring to is that the lack of a real market meant the insurance might never (or far too late for the 'investor') be marked up to reflect the fact they were all burning down.

[Obviously not a perfect analogy with real insurance where you could simply make a claim].
03-25-2019 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK


^^This^^
We are not living in a liberal country. This is the bigger point.
03-26-2019 , 06:32 AM
Debating this on Woman's Hour. Jenni Murray asserting it would finish a male politician.

Lib Dem MP Layla Moran slapped partner at conference
03-26-2019 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
Debating this on Woman's Hour. Jenni Murray asserting it would finish a male politician.

Lib Dem MP Layla Moran slapped partner at conference
She claims that she slapped him in the heat of the moment as she felt threatened. That doesn't make sense at all.
03-26-2019 , 08:42 AM
Are we getting the full story? A woman slaps a man in a private hotel room - why did the police turn up?
03-26-2019 , 08:49 AM
What exactly are LGBT lessons? I do like the use of the word ‘chilling’, to emphasise just how existential this threat is.
03-26-2019 , 08:57 AM
LGBT lessons = letting children know LGBT people exist and that's fine.
03-26-2019 , 09:12 AM
It's a poor apology - the "because I felt threatened" line totally defers responsibility for her actions.

Its the equivalent of a man saying "she was winding me up".

      
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