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03-09-2019 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
You obviously don't need to be paid actual £s, maybe your shilling for a better job. Who knows though.
OK and how does that work?
03-09-2019 , 01:53 PM
^^you tell me.

Meanwhile.... Actual war crimes.



https://youtu.be/_E0ChWNOMM8
03-09-2019 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
German Marshall Fund? Maybe PGUK should look into them.

After all they are conducting a smear campaign against Labour and all Liberal media since October.

http://www.gmfus.org
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
OK and how does that work?
While a smear campaign is ongoing by the GOP and right wing, you popped in to tell us all how bad Labour is (hint we all know how bad rasicm is in the UK) and shilled for these folks....
03-09-2019 , 01:59 PM
Why don't you write a paper on the German Marshall Fund.... Instead of shilling for them & other right wing groups.... BTW I hate Labour but I can see when one's outrage is in bad faith, plain and simple brother.
03-09-2019 , 02:01 PM
It's almost like you take your orders from A Tom Watson type...... TRAITORS THE LOT OF THEM.
03-09-2019 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
^^you tell me.
I don't know, but if I can mobilise mentioning Labour's anti-Semitism issues on a message board into a £10,000,000 per year job I'd like to know how so perhaps you could outline how you think that would work? Thank you.

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Originally Posted by smacc25
Meanwhile.... Actual war crimes.



https://youtu.be/_E0ChWNOMM8
Wait, what does Israel have to do with anything?
03-09-2019 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
I don't know, but if I can mobilise mentioning Labour's anti-Semitism issues on a message board into a £10,000,000 per year job I'd like to know how so perhaps you could outline how you think that would work? Thank you.



Wait, what does Israel have to do with anything?
Have a good day Sir.
03-09-2019 , 03:41 PM
Just as a heads-up, posts accusing a poster of being a “paid” poster to shill as part of some sort of at least antisemitic-adjacent conspiracy theory will not be tolerated, in this or any other thread.

Regards,

—jman220
03-09-2019 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
someone gimme a shout when muslim tory MPs start quitting over inaction re: racist abuse from fellow tories
If they do start quitting it won't take very long until there are none left, because there are only two.
03-09-2019 , 04:38 PM
Meanwhile back in the real world

Two days ago Conservatives largely silent as Lady Warsi says party has institutional problem

And yes, the institutional problem the Tories have, according to Lady Warsi, herself a Muslim, is Islamophobia.
03-09-2019 , 04:42 PM
Then before that there was the London Mayoral election, when Tory Zac Goldsmith was condemned by top Conservatives for his 'disgusting' campaign to smear Labour’s winning candidate, Sadiq Khan by painting him as a closet Muslim extremist.

But no institutional racism in the Tory party, no sir.
03-09-2019 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
It's the old cliche though, it's not the original scandal that's the main story, it's the cover up. Or in this case Labour's failure to deal with it in the proper manner and the belief that the leadership are complicit.
Which simply begs the question why is not the same true for the Tory party?

Who by any reasonable metric have been more explicitly racist from more important figures.

Its not like they came down on Boris in anyway.

Even now Im waiting for any labour behaviour that even comes close to the Boris remarks.
03-09-2019 , 05:27 PM
Its horrible how the Labour party cant move to the left without tons of collective outcry from the middle of the road types like BAIDS and Hoopie, whilst the Tory party can effortlessly lurch to the right.

When we all have to take the knee to High Chancellor of Albion Arron Banks, its on you.
03-09-2019 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
I like Jess. She has a consistently turn of phrase (see below) and would be a natural to occupy the seat next to Portillo if This Week wasn't finishing. She'd clear up in a U.S media environment as a cable news talking head.

Jesus at the sexism in how she is described in that first sentence.
03-09-2019 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
I think there are people within the Conservative party who are just as racist about Muslims as the Labour Party are about Jews, probably more so.

Difference is, they are not running things.
This is only true if you forget he was referring to the ex foreign secretary tipped to be the next party leader and if you missed the leader of the house finding herself in an islamophobia scandal yesterday.

There is undeniably more prejudice and misc racism in the leadership of the Tory party than the Labour party. The current prime minister created a set of migration rules that target non whites with surgical precision to punish them for wanting to improve the country.

The double standard is blatant, when really both should be under constant attack for their deep rooted prejudice. The outcome of the Boris investigation alone should be constantly brought up whenever any Tory tries to take the moral high ground on anything. The Conservatives investigated a hate crime and found it to be "respectful and tolerant".
03-09-2019 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Its horrible how the Labour party cant move to the left without tons of collective outcry from the middle of the road types like BAIDS and Hoopie, whilst the Tory party can effortlessly lurch to the right.
current tory cabinet isnt particularly right wing. there's a large faction of purple weirdos on the back benches and yes their influence is too big but they aren't leading the party

if they put sir lord moffingfrog the sixty eighth marquis of pimbrokeshire on the wold in charge its a different matter

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read a couple days ago that the internet porno law is about to take effect, get ready to send your passport and credit card details over the interwebz lads
03-09-2019 , 08:17 PM
Typical of the uptight and callous Tories that they remove anonymity from Internet porn which hasn't been proven to be of any harm to anyone, instead of from social media where the ability to shout abuse of the worst kind and bully people anonymously is quite frankly making people's lives a misery.

But we are the party of freedom and we uphold the right of anonymous cowards with massive inferiority complexes to compete in abusing people online day and night.
03-09-2019 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
current tory cabinet isnt particularly right wing.
Lol

It's the most right wing this country has seen in living memory. Saying it would be even more extreme if Lord Snooty and his chums took over is irrelevant.

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03-09-2019 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
read a couple days ago that the internet porno law is about to take effect, get ready to send your passport and credit card details over the interwebz lads
We are going to see some big unintended consequences.

We are about to find out if it's easier to learn to use a vpn than it is to use these age check websites. After the first data breach vpns will become super popular.

I know I won't be handing over my details to a central database that will be a prime target for hackers.

Pornhub/redtube owner MindGeek is getting into the age verification business and will likely be one of the largest, if not outright largest due to their reach. What happens when they link up your porn habits to your real world identity in a way they couldn't really do previously?
03-10-2019 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Its horrible how the Labour party cant move to the left without tons of collective outcry from the middle of the road types like BAIDS and Hoopie, whilst the Tory party can effortlessly lurch to the right.

When we all have to take the knee to High Chancellor of Albion Arron Banks, its on you.
I didn't know that the SWP had a branch in Redruth.
03-10-2019 , 06:21 AM
Going on an anti-Tory rant about online porn restrictions two days after Labour blamed knife crime on online porn is ... rather interesting.
03-10-2019 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Jesus at the sexism in how she is described in that first sentence.
Although it seems it is appropriate for Phillips to criticise someone on the basis of their age in a way that would never be tolerated about gender, race, etc.
03-10-2019 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Then before that there was the London Mayoral election, when Tory Zac Goldsmith was condemned by top Conservatives for his 'disgusting' campaign to smear Labour’s winning candidate, Sadiq Khan by painting him as a closet Muslim extremist.

But no institutional racism in the Tory party, no sir.
That the Corbynites only defence is "yeah, but at least we're not as racist as some racist tory" is quite the whataboutism.
03-10-2019 , 08:09 AM
It is whataboutism, but it does highlight the disparity in media (and Tories here) outrage between two similar problems.

BTW I'm not a "Corbynite" - another lazy media trope people like you love to repeat - and having moved house since the last GE may not even be able bring myself to vote for my corrupt local MP (and by implication for him).
03-10-2019 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
BBC Politics Live

From 40:00

No one watches vids here so it went:



ffs

This encapsulates how ****ing stupid some MPs are nowadays. There's a growing case for them to pass some sort of basic logic + maths + comprehension entrance exam before standing for Parliament.
It's most likely just standard political rhetorical stuff. The sort that some call reasonable inference and I call making things up.

The more important error would be believing that voting to remain implies you're not sexist/racist. I've no doubt Will Self would agree that he doesn't mean to imply that even though it does follow logically from what he said.

WS was making a witty general point.

      
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