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06-08-2017 , 07:27 PM

#6926

BOIDS

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https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2017/

06-08-2017 , 07:27 PM

#6927

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

If it's a messy result then keep watching. Among other delights you will might even get to see the monarchy getting involved.

Everything I'm reading says the queen will not be involved in picking a PM and at worse may only decline to give her speech in person.

06-08-2017 , 07:28 PM

#6928

NicReynolds

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BOIDS

im watching itv, balls and osbourne are good. dimbleby was shambolic last year so decided to switch my vote

Dimbleby keeps talking over the results complaining about the sound lol.

06-08-2017 , 07:28 PM

#6929

BOIDS

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mhari black supposedly done

06-08-2017 , 07:28 PM

#6930

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LostOstrich

exit poll has Warrington South going comfortably red. Those kids knocking on doors in Sankey might have changed the world last night.

Was listening to some jam last night. This struck a chord

Quote:

We want a direction, all over the country
I said I want a reaction, all over this land
You g-got to get up and move it, a youth explosion
Because this is your last chance

Can't dismiss what is gone before
But there's foundations for us to explore

I said

All around the world I've been looking for a new

Great single too.

06-08-2017 , 07:29 PM

#6931

master3004

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Can someone explain the Sinn Fein party? They win most of northern Ireland but do not participate in parliament?

06-08-2017 , 07:29 PM

#6932

LuckyLloyd

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Kettering:

Con 57.9
Lab 36.5

YouGov:

Con 60
Lab 32

06-08-2017 , 07:29 PM

#6933

BertieWooster

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ty baids

06-08-2017 , 07:30 PM

#6934

LuckyLloyd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Can someone explain the Sinn Fein party? They win most of northern Ireland but do not participate in parliament?

They do not take their seats in Westminster because they refuse to swear an oath to the Queen (a precondition for taking your seat).

06-08-2017 , 07:31 PM

#6935

BOIDS

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sinn fein want a united ireland and dont turn up cos british bad. they dont win most of NI, bout a quarter to a third i think

06-08-2017 , 07:32 PM

#6936

deathorglory0

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyLloyd

They do not take their seats in Westminster because they refuse to swear an oath to the Queen (a precondition for taking your seat).

But mostly because they oppose Westminster’s jurisdiction in Northern Ireland.

06-08-2017 , 07:33 PM

#6937

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BOIDS

sinn fein want a united ireland and dont turn up cos british bad. they dont win most of NI, bout a quarter to a third i think

So it would be like if New Jersey wanted it's own country so they didn't send any senators or congressmen to session? Are their seats essentially null?

06-08-2017 , 07:33 PM

#6938

BertieWooster

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BBC's man in Skegness been on the ale.

06-08-2017 , 07:35 PM

#6939

O.A.F.K.1.1

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Shame there was no if that exit poll is right I will eat my hat moment.

06-08-2017 , 07:35 PM

#6940

LuckyLloyd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BOIDS

yougov on the money so far but dynamic gonna be v diff in places w/o large ukip vote, i wanna see some other regions report b4 declaring yougov goat

Kettering:

Con 57.9
Lab 36.5

YouGov:

Con 60
Lab 32

06-08-2017 , 07:35 PM

#6941

sixfour

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Con hold Nuneaton, it's over

06-08-2017 , 07:36 PM

#6942

LuckyLloyd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deathorglory0

But mostly because they oppose Westminster’s jurisdiction in Northern Ireland.

True, but if the oath was removed they would probably take the seat in situations where they had leverage to gain. They are obviously committed to a 32 county Irish Republic.

06-08-2017 , 07:38 PM

#6943

BOIDS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sixfour

Con hold Nuneaton, it's over

osbourne was going on about how nuneaton was one labour had to win to secure a majority in 2015, con hold doesnt mean much for the hung parliament/small con majority calculus

06-08-2017 , 07:42 PM

#6944

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyLloyd

True, but if the oath was removed they would probably take the seat in situations where they had leverage to gain. They are obviously committed to a 32 county Irish Republic.

Tony Benn and a few other (English) republicans used to openly mumble iirc

06-08-2017 , 07:42 PM

#6945

LuckyLloyd

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Nuneaton:

Con 51.6
Lab 41.3

Yougov:

Con 46
Lab 42

Broxbourne:

Con 62.2
Lab 28.9

Yougov:

Con 58
Lab 28

06-08-2017 , 07:43 PM

#6946

tomj

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Lol at media fumbling about trying to get their heads around it

06-08-2017 , 07:43 PM

#6947

LektorAJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

So it would be like if New Jersey wanted it's own country so they didn't send any senators or congressmen to session? Are their seats essentially null?

Perhaps if a significant minority of people in New Mexico wanted it to return to Mexico.

But yes, for tonight's purposes they are null. They effectively reduce the target by about 3.

06-08-2017 , 07:46 PM

#6948

BOIDS

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MORE RESULTS YOU ****S

06-08-2017 , 07:46 PM

#6949

LostOstrich

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hung parliament in to 8/15 on Betfair now

06-08-2017 , 07:48 PM

#6950

BlueWillow

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The constant excuses on the BBC have been the highlight so far for me. Having an independent national broadcaster is a basic standard for any liberal country and hopefully with this result we can head back to that.

John wittingdale's stench will take a while to wash off.

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