okay it's wheels within wheels plotting I guess. They sure seem to be amateurs at it though.

What is happening? It seems to me that as just about everybody is calling for Corbyn to quit their afraid of him, afraid that if he gets in to power here is a man who might actually do something to help the lower/working class and not the rich/upper class.

What is the view of the Brits here, is Corbyn really as unelectable as most of the media keep telling us?

Yes, he is, but the worst of it at the moment is he is utterly useless in opposition. He was utterly useless in the brexit campaign too, and seems to be running an inner circle sect rather than an opposition party in a mature democracy.

I don't have much time for labour, but I sure don't want to live in a one-party state where there is literally no realistic choice about who gets elected.

The only way this nonsense works for me is if he's just holding on for Chilcott to somehow make sure he states in the strongest terms as leader of the labour party that Blair should be held accountable. Will be a national treasure if that's the point of all this. But will still be entirely unelectable.

Yeah dude he is terrible. Labour is structurally unelectable anyway right now but Corbyn hurts this significantly.

The first goal of a political party leader is to have enough support to form a government and he cannot do so.

To demonstrate how unelectable he is, labour just had an internal investigation on anti-Semitism and the same day it reported he made a remark that essentially likened Israel to ISIS. At best he is super super stupid.

Also at a meeting for that report one of his MPs, a Jewish woman not that it matters, was attacked by a conspiracy nut about how Jews owned the media or some similar crazy ramblings. The nut was a part of Corbyns so called grass roots supporters Momentum so not only did Corbyn not defend his MP in his speech he later managed to be seen by a room of journalists chatting jovially with the nut.

He also decided to fire the best liked member of his cabinet at midnight after the referendum because he thought he as plotting to oust him, starting the chain of events where he received a vote of no confidence after a series of resignations from his cabinet.

Corbyn isn't well liked by the public at large. His own party MPs don't like him, its not even clear his friends want him to stay and he has repeatedly done a piss poor job including his limp remain campaigning, which he clearly didn't want to do and was going through the motions because he has always been anti EU.

There just isn't a groundswell of support for him. This isn't a case of some insiders and elites don't like him but the public does. He doesn't have the new car smell and we are beyond the point where just being the opposition is enough to be popular. Opinion polls show labour was briefly ahead of conservatives but they are back below them again.

Short of the Tories ****ing it up themselves he won't find himself in government and if that is the strategy a badger is equally as valid a leader of the opposition.

Yes the first paragraph is something I agree with and the answer to the second paragraph is no he is not unelectable.
The fact that 'most of the media' say something is usually cause to question it. It says it all when everybody to the right of Ed Miliband (and maybe some to his left, whatever it's just a benchmark) all the way through the Tory hard right is calling for his resignation, and yet the majority of Labour supporters, ie. real, ordinary, working people want him as leader.
This is a real faultline in British politics, this is hugely significant, not only the potential for the dis-integration of Blairism but for a fundamental shift in what Labour is, possibly since it's inception, along the lines of Syriza etc.. no wonder the political class and their media don't want this.
The 'unelectable' tag is obv a reference to the Michael Foot years etc.. when Labour were out for 18 years - which completely ignores the thousands of other objective and subjective factors that allowed the Tories to hang on f so long. Labour did not need Blair in 97 to win an election. We could go on all day with stuff but basically Corbyn is a political expression of anti-war, pro-green, pro-gay, pro-women, anti-privatisation, anti-corporate, pro-regulatory, pro-working class politics that has been fermenting for the last 10-20 years. Every bit of s*** thrown at Coryn and the Labour left should be cause to fight on further, you know you're making progress when they do.

Repetition of right wing propagandist stitch-ups
Repetition of base-less opinions such as 'the public at large don't like him'
Downright lies also - Hilary Benn told Corbyn he had no trust in him - anyone says that to their boss and they're screwed, screw Benn, father is turning in grave

+1.

Corbyn is perhaps the only politician I have heard any actual people say anything good about.

He is barely positive in polls of labour members. When 48% say you are doing a bad job you are not electable.

Only 60% of people who voted for him think he should stay on as leader.

Its just a leftist circle jerk fantasy that Britain is calling out for Corbyn. Labour MPs aren't, labour members barely are and the wider electorate definitely isn't.

But sure keep listening to the super corrupt unions and ********** leftist anti Semitic racist fascist groups like Momentum.

Which btw is run by one of the people most responsible for the time Labour were completely shut out of politics under Foot, pulling strings behind the scenes then too.

Its ****ing amazing you guys are literally repeating history with the exact same people and you think this time the even more centrist British electorate will swing hard left any day now.

I love the origin story myth labour has told itself amongst its most rabid and inbred hard left that the hard left politics is a winner and it is just a coincidence that every PM elected since the end of the 70s was either right wing or centrist, most being centrist.

These guys truly are our truthers and birthers.

While that's true, it's probably only because Foot, Kinnock and Brown weren't viewed as PM material (being intellectual, yob and sociopath respectively).

A more normal person from the left of the party might have fared a lot better..

Kinnock was within a whisker and Brown would most likely have won if it was him instead of Blair after John Smith died.

"leftist anti Semitic racist fascist groups" lol man facepalm

Perhaps. Corbyn clearly isn't that person, we surely agree on this?

He has a huge mandate. But whatever, let's have another vote anyway - I'm told war monger Eagle is very popular with Labour members.
If he loses a second leadership election, fair enough, we won't call on the new leader to resign, that would be un-democratic and not in keeping with Momentum's unique leftist anti-Semitic racist fascist politics.

From entryists who amount to a couple of hundred people per constituency. So good luck with that.

Really? Never heard anything good about Clem Attlee, then, have you? That would probably make you a typical Corbynista. Technically alive but with no higher brain functions at all.

He doesn't have any mandate when he had a massive loss in a no confidence vote and is essentially a coin flip amongst labour members whether he is doing a good or bad job.

That huge mandate tho.

Agreed

It does seem like that is what he's doing.

Interesting comment from Alex Sammond:

Should be another interesting week...

Even if I were a dog, that still wouldn't change the fact that Corbyn is pretty popular and well-liked, which cannot be said for many other politicians of this time.

You can irrelevantly comb history for well-liked politicians if you like, and try to disrespect and discredit me as a person for having political beliefs you disagree with. That would probably make you a typical anti-Corbyn-ista, a snake-politician-loving demagogic dork.

to be fair though, I would admit that I don't follow the polls etc so I could be overestimating the link between "people liking him" and "enough people actually being willing to vote for labour under him"

Lol Corbyn tried to attack a journalist who asked him a question he didn't like over the weekend.

He is truly pathetic.

His aides won't even let any MPs outside his tiny bubble of support speak to him.

Some scumbag journos deserve a kicking, who was it and what did they ask him?
Who on earth would want to speak to people like Chris 'tell me what to think' Bryant anyway ffs?

Have a look for yourself and you will see why Phill did not post a link of the 'attack'