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04-20-2017 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GBV
Therefore voting tactically for a Liberal is more likely to lead to a Tory government-as it did in 2010.
This is amazing.

Anyone voting tactically for a Liberal will be doing nothing to limit the amount of Labour MPs but doing something to limit the amount of Tory MPs.

A tactical vote for a Liberal by definition does nothing to impeded Labour's overall seat total and by definition is intended to limit Tories over all seat total.
04-20-2017 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GBV
Another picture. This is like being dribbled on by kids with down's syndrome.

Thanks for your contribution Jalfrezei, now go and play with your plasticine in the corner with the other special children.
I'm not sure if you get the point that the problem is not just being disrespectful to other posters it's being disrespectful to disabled people. If you really don't get that or don't care - that really says something about your politics.
04-20-2017 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
I'm not sure if you get the point that the problem is not just being disrespectful to other posters it's being disrespectful to disabled people. If you really don't get that or don't care - that really says something about your politics.
Yea nailed it, this was so obvious I did not even think it needed saying.
04-20-2017 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
I'm not sure if you get the point that the problem is not just being disrespectful to other posters it's being disrespectful to disabled people. If you really don't get that or don't care - that really says something about your politics.
Oh please. You know how many disabled people died because they got their benefits taken away by the last coalition government? The British public and most of the respondents in the thread don't give a **** about that or they'd all be voting for Corbyn.

Much easier to complain about some "politically incorrect" language to salve your conscience and ignore the corpses piling up..
04-20-2017 , 07:45 AM
Let it never be forgotten.
04-20-2017 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
This is amazing.

Anyone voting tactically for a Liberal will be doing nothing to limit the amount of Labour MPs but doing something to limit the amount of Tory MPs.

A tactical vote for a Liberal by definition does nothing to impeded Labour's overall seat total and by definition is intended to limit Tories over all seat total.
"Nothing" is an over-statement. An election is a set of probabilities. There is no certainty in anything-it detracts credibility from your argument when you talk in certainties because it makes you sound like someone who thinks a nag in the 3.30 at Goodwood can't lose.

Depending on the exact criteria the chance of a Labour outsider winning in a nominally LD-Tory contest could be anywhere between 0-10%. That's a lot of potential seats Labour could win given there are 650 constituencies overall -the government's current majority is only just single figures.
04-20-2017 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GBV
You two lowered the tone of the argument with the meme posting. Now you are whining because you can't handle the response.

Don't Dish it out if you can't handle it. You are pathetic.
I think you're confusing me with someone else?
I haven't posted any memes and am somewhat sympathetic to your viewpoint but not the way you're handling this.
04-20-2017 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GBV
You know how many disabled people died because they got their benefits taken away by the last coalition government?
erm... do you? or are you making it up?
04-20-2017 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
GBV is incapable of any kind of thinking that involves demarcation points. 1/0 is all he is capable of.
1/0 could be construed as infinity. For him it should be 0/1.
04-20-2017 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
erm... do you? or are you making it up?
You aren't convincing me that you actually care about the disabled that much now.
04-20-2017 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GBV
"Nothing" is an over-statement. An election is a set of probabilities. There is no certainty in anything-it detracts credibility from your argument when you talk in certainties because it makes you sound like someone who thinks a nag in the 3.30 at Goodwood can't lose.

Depending on the exact criteria the chance of a Labour outsider winning in a nominally LD-Tory contest could be anywhere between 0-10%. That's a lot of potential seats Labour could win given there are 650 constituencies overall -the government's current majority is only just single figures.
I think the more likely reason for people not voting Cornyn is they care about themselves.
04-20-2017 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
I'm not sure if you get the point that the problem is not just being disrespectful to other posters it's being disrespectful to disabled people. If you really don't get that or don't care - that really says something about your politics.
The comment was distasteful. I hope you will also be going after every 2+2 poster who has used the term 'spaz' in a derogatory way to which I will hold my hands up.
But then you deny well documented facts about the rise in deaths under Tory social policy. Pretty hypocritical.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/heal...erly-care.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...rectly-5634404

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...m-8197640.html
04-20-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GBV
That's a lot of potential seats Labour could win given there are 650 constituencies overal-the government's current majority is only just single figures.
Ha ha. If you have ever won any money politics betting it was pure god mode run good.

Anyone who thinks that tactical voting for LDs in place of Labour will be happening in all 650 seats is really fundamentally clueless about even the basics of our electoral system.
04-20-2017 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tomj
The comment was distasteful. I hope you will also be going after every 2+2 poster who has used the term 'spaz' in a derogatory way to which I will hold my hands up.
But then you deny well documented facts about the rise in deaths under Tory social policy. Pretty hypocritical.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/heal...erly-care.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...rectly-5634404

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...m-8197640.html
Where does he do that?
04-20-2017 , 12:34 PM
Actually i wasn't denying anything - It just irritated me the other poster was casually "shroud waving" in a attempt to not take any responsibiilty for what he was saying.

it does irritate me the way that people go on about "tards" the whole time but it's rarely done in such a graphic and tasteless way.

I've seen fairly directly the effects of benefit and social care cuts (it's the social care that's the real problem imo) as well as the effect of bullying of disabled people. Both are pretty unpleasant - the way that we casually slag people off is part of the climate that supports this.

It's one of the reasons we need a strong and electable Labour party. Unfortunately we have neither.
04-20-2017 , 01:12 PM
Haha old Corbyn banging on again about taking money from people who worked all their lives to make a decent living and handing it out to the undeserving masses. Wanker.
04-20-2017 , 01:40 PM
Yes - poor old Sir Phil Green
04-20-2017 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
Haha old Corbyn banging on again about taking money from people who worked all their lives to make a decent living and handing it out to the undeserving masses. Wanker.
Not sure what your income bracket is, but chances are you would be a net winner.
04-20-2017 , 02:14 PM
LET THEM DRINK GIN 'N' TONIC
04-20-2017 , 02:27 PM


Spoiler:
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04-20-2017 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by epcfast
Yes - poor old Sir Phil Green
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Not sure what your income bracket is, but chances are you would be a net winner.
He's on about increasing taxes if you earned over like £70k. That's setting the bar for 'rich' really ****ing low.
04-20-2017 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
04-20-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
He's on about increasing taxes if you earned over like £70k. That's setting the bar for 'rich' really ****ing low.
70K a year puts you in the 98th percentile or thereabouts.
04-20-2017 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
He's on about increasing taxes if you earned over like £70k. That's setting the bar for 'rich' really ****ing low.

Dropping the threshold from £150k to £70k seems reasonable.
Would cost someone earning £150k a whopping £77 a week.
Would cost someone earning £80k nearly a tenner a week!
Compare that to what this lot have done to the poor and vulnerable as part of "austerity"
04-20-2017 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oldgoat
erm... do you? or are you making it up?
Let's just say you downplayed the impact of Tory cuts on disabled people to score points.

In general, yes I agree the standard of language out there is poor. It should remind us the importance of political correctness in helping to shape a positive discourse when referring to oppressed groups which feeds a general climate of respect. Yes that's right Daily Mail readers (DieBitter I'm talking to you) I LOVE political correctness.

      
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