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11-24-2018 , 07:36 AM
I know it's "just" a knighthood but such blatant corruption should be a resigning issue and perhaps illegal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46320320

Last edited by PartyGirlUK; 11-24-2018 at 08:01 AM.
11-24-2018 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Harry Leslie Smith, an activist for refugees, war veteran, and advocate for NHS is currently in the hospital after a fall.

He's 95. So, a full recovery is highly unlikely.

Here's his interview on The Russell Howard Hour from about a year ago.
And here's Harry, on Twitter, telling a Jewish woman called Joanne Offord to '**** off, Hitler,' because she disagreed with his Corbynista view that people shouldn't wear the poppy to honour our war dead.



https://twitter.com/harryslaststand/...469504?lang=en

Whether that really was Harry, or his Corbynista son John who appears to have charge of the Twitter account in Harry's name, we can't be sure. Either way it sucks.

Last edited by 57 On Red; 11-24-2018 at 04:05 PM.
11-24-2018 , 04:05 PM
People who stand with Israel and support Brexit can go **** themselves.

Good for him.

As far as I'm concerned, he's done enough that telling off one right-wing troll isn't going to bother me.
11-24-2018 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
People who stand with Israel and support Brexit can go **** themselves.
So can you, Bob. So can you.

Here's Harry again, voicing the pro-Nazi revisionist (and Corbynista) view that Albert Speer was a better person than Tony Blair.



https://twitter.com/Harryslaststand/...03173917347840

Although, of course, we don't know whether that was really Harry or John either.

Now Harry's this huge propaganda figure, sources like the BBC and the Guardian have been claiming he served as an RAF pilot during the Second World War (because kiddie journos think everyone in the RAF is a pilot). He didn't. He was a ground-based wireless operator and he never left the safety of England until the last couple of months of the war, when he was posted to safe Allied-held areas of the Low Countries. He never saw combat of any kind. Three men in my family died flying as aircrew against the Third Reich and I don't take kindly to mere office boys like Harry claiming 'war hero' status.
11-24-2018 , 08:43 PM
So you think his son has control over the twitter account but still proceed to disparage the oul lad.

Nice.

Has Harry himself claimed to have been a pilot or just more **** flung at the wall by you 57? Because reading your post it seems it's a media claim.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 11-24-2018 at 08:47 PM. Reason: Well within his rights to tell anyone to **** off that questions if he wears a poppy or not. Poppy facist itt
11-24-2018 , 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
People who stand with Israel and support Brexit can go **** themselves.

Good for him.

As far as I'm concerned, he's done enough that telling off one right-wing troll isn't going to bother me.
11-25-2018 , 02:10 AM
Lol at Harry being a HUGE propaganda figure.
11-25-2018 , 07:40 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...uggid=b0bs2v31

No idea why this was only shown on local telly.

Story about Auntie Annie and the Maguire 7 and one of the greatest miscarriages of British justice.

Listening to Patrick Maguire would put tears in a glass eye.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 11-25-2018 at 07:48 PM.
11-26-2018 , 08:09 PM
R.I.P

11-28-2018 , 06:57 AM
R.I.P to Harry Leslie Smith too. Look after your old folk.
11-28-2018 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
R.I.P to Harry Leslie Smith too. Look after your old folk.
+1

Even though he spoke mostly of the UK, Americans could learn a thing or two from his speeches and books.
11-28-2018 , 10:23 AM
Any speech that can draw a standing ovation out of a British crowd is one worth watching.

11-28-2018 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Any speech that can draw a standing ovation out of a British crowd is one worth watching.

I don't want to devalue the speech - mostly because I can't be bothered to watch it - but you've clearly not seen any party conference coverage (and good on you for it). Standing ovations are pretty much mandatory.

Even this clown managed to get a few people standing and applauding - and this 30 second clip is in the running for the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

https://inews.co.uk/video/labour-con...cation-tories/
11-28-2018 , 11:07 AM
I don't find much interest in party conferences. However, some speeches are admirable and worthy of respect. Harry's speech is one of them. Although the speech explicitly refers to the NHS, its principles can be applied to health care standards of any developed country.

Harry's description of health care in Britain in the 1920s shares traits with health care in America today. Like post World War 1 Britain, the rich in America can afford medical care to keep them alive until their twilight years while the poor die from diseases that would be easily preventable with access to free medical care, The CIA World Factbook lists 30 developed countries. Twenty-nine of them have universal health care.

Nothing would make me prouder of America, my native country, than the implementation of universal health care. I'm sure that day will come. I'm not sure if I will be alive to see it.
11-28-2018 , 11:28 AM
Yeah I was more being pedantic about the standing ovation bit
11-28-2018 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Harry's description of health care in Britain in the 1920s shares traits with health care in America today. Like post World War 1 Britain, the rich in America can afford medical care to keep them alive until their twilight years while the poor die from diseases that would be easily preventable with access to free medical care,
Healthcare in the US is a ridiculous nightmare created by plutocrats, but Harry wasn't talking about the US. And if you think Harry's sister's TB would have been 'easily preventable' except that, in Harry's words, 'we didn't have the dosh,' you've bought the hype and drunk the Kool-Aid. As Harry appears not to have known (which is surprising, in the circumstances), there was no cure for TB in the 1930s. Rich or poor, you just died. Even if you could afford an expensive 'sanatorium' in Switzerland with all that fresh healthy air (which was pure superstition), you were likely to die within five years. Streptomycin, the antibiotic cure, was only available from 1946.

Harry had an unfortunate history of talking complete bollocks like that. The mawkish and inappropriate tributes paid by politicians suggest he was this big influencer, but he wasn't. He didn't stop the rollout of Universal Credit and he didn't stop the withdrawal of DLA, the most vital financial assistance programme for the disabled and mentally ill. Nor was he even interested in those issues, because they weren't all about him and his sacrosanct and much-advertised personal history, even though one of his sons suffered serious mental illness and died prematurely, and his other son has suffered mental illness as well. Even with that massive prompt, Harry still didn't give a toss about DLA, because it wasn't to do with Barnsley in the 1920s and Harry's personal poor-me act.

Harry was opposed to Brexit, and yet he ran interference for Corbyn, who is a fanatical Brexitard, and he thereby helped Corbyn play the angles with his 'constructive ambiguity.' That's not good. And Harry apparently didn't even know that Corbyn voted for Osborne's Tory welfare cuts, which even Iain Duncan Smith resigned over, or that Corbyn in his last election manifesto pledged to continue those cuts, because he and McDonnell want to waste the money instead on (a) restoring child benefit to better-off couples, and (b) subsidising tuition fees for better-off students. In other words, buying middle-class votes to give Corbyn and McDonnell personally a shot at greater privilege and power, because their private polling tells them that the working class have deserted Labour and their best chance of doing a Pol Pot relies on appealing to idiot middle-class recreational Marxists.

Harry was just a stooge, I'm afraid. And, despite what the BBC will tell you, he wasn't a pilot, never served in any aircrew capacity and never saw combat of any kind, instead sitting out the war in one of the safest jobs going.
11-28-2018 , 11:49 PM
lol
11-29-2018 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
Healthcare in the US is a ridiculous nightmare created by plutocrats, but Harry wasn't talking about the US. And if you think Harry's sister's TB would have been 'easily preventable' except that, in Harry's words, 'we didn't have the dosh,' you've bought the hype and drunk the Kool-Aid. As Harry appears not to have known (which is surprising, in the circumstances), there was no cure for TB in the 1930s. Rich or poor, you just died. Even if you could afford an expensive 'sanatorium' in Switzerland with all that fresh healthy air (which was pure superstition), you were likely to die within five years. Streptomycin, the antibiotic cure, was only available from 1946.
Preventable isn't the same as curable and the BCG was developed in the early 20's.
11-30-2018 , 03:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 57 On Red
Healthcare in the US is a ridiculous nightmare created by plutocrats, but Harry wasn't talking about the US. And if you think Harry's sister's TB would have been 'easily preventable' except that, in Harry's words, 'we didn't have the dosh,' you've bought the hype and drunk the Kool-Aid. As Harry appears not to have known (which is surprising, in the circumstances), there was no cure for TB in the 1930s. Rich or poor, you just died. Even if you could afford an expensive 'sanatorium' in Switzerland with all that fresh healthy air (which was pure superstition), you were likely to die within five years. Streptomycin, the antibiotic cure, was only available from 1946.

Harry had an unfortunate history of talking complete bollocks like that. The mawkish and inappropriate tributes paid by politicians suggest he was this big influencer, but he wasn't. He didn't stop the rollout of Universal Credit and he didn't stop the withdrawal of DLA, the most vital financial assistance programme for the disabled and mentally ill. Nor was he even interested in those issues, because they weren't all about him and his sacrosanct and much-advertised personal history, even though one of his sons suffered serious mental illness and died prematurely, and his other son has suffered mental illness as well. Even with that massive prompt, Harry still didn't give a toss about DLA, because it wasn't to do with Barnsley in the 1920s and Harry's personal poor-me act.

Harry was opposed to Brexit, and yet he ran interference for Corbyn, who is a fanatical Brexitard, and he thereby helped Corbyn play the angles with his 'constructive ambiguity.' That's not good. And Harry apparently didn't even know that Corbyn voted for Osborne's Tory welfare cuts, which even Iain Duncan Smith resigned over, or that Corbyn in his last election manifesto pledged to continue those cuts, because he and McDonnell want to waste the money instead on (a) restoring child benefit to better-off couples, and (b) subsidising tuition fees for better-off students. In other words, buying middle-class votes to give Corbyn and McDonnell personally a shot at greater privilege and power, because their private polling tells them that the working class have deserted Labour and their best chance of doing a Pol Pot relies on appealing to idiot middle-class recreational Marxists.

Harry was just a stooge, I'm afraid. And, despite what the BBC will tell you, he wasn't a pilot, never served in any aircrew capacity and never saw combat of any kind, instead sitting out the war in one of the safest jobs going.
11-30-2018 , 05:49 PM
So, this is quite funny.

Quote:
Jeremy described all options as being on the table and noted that it would be unwise to call a confidence vote unless the opposition was confident of having the votes to win – due to the fixed term parliament act, you can only call a confidence vote once a year.
https://labourlist.org/2018/11/brexi...st-nec-report/

This was at the Labour NEC meeting on 27 November. Corbyn is so thick he literally doesn't know the difference between Conservative Parliamentary Party rules (which lay down that the leader cannot face a second no-confidence vote from the CPP within one year) and the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, which contains no such rule in regard to HM Government.

Jesus wept.
12-03-2018 , 02:11 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46424474

****s should still be prosecuted even if 50 years later and some jail time* wouldn't be out of place either.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike...h_Army_officer)

A special case should be made for that^^ war criminal. Throw away the key. ****.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 12-03-2018 at 02:20 PM. Reason: *Can only do 2 years then released under terms of GFA. Dgaf if the murdering bastards are in their 70's, they need jailed.
12-03-2018 , 06:35 PM
Ties in with last post......

http://global-politics.eu/war-crimes...chael-jackson/

What a ****.
12-20-2018 , 01:28 PM
Fiona Onasanya after her conviction:

"“I campaigned for justice and for the interests of ordinary people throughout my entire working life to date,” she said.

“Regardless of what you believe or suspect, the fact remains that I, Fiona, sought to be the choice and voice of change – but this may now take a different path. More than ever before, I am asking that you commit time in prayer for my family.

“In times like these, the natural inclination of believers is to ask God: why? I personally do not, because in my experience the answers are usually far above and beyond my reach. What I do know is that I am in good biblical company, along with Joseph, Moses, Daniel and his three Hebrew friends, who were each found guilty by the courts of their day.

“While God did not save them from a guilty verdict, he did save them in it and ensured that their greatest days of impact were on the other side of a guilty verdict. Of course this is equally true of Christ, who was accused and convicted by the courts of his day and yet this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter in his story.
"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...blical-figures
12-20-2018 , 01:52 PM
The cover up:crime ratio. Losing her job as MP, getting disbarred, maybe going to jail. All to avoid a £100 fine. At least Huhne was facing a driving ban.
12-20-2018 , 01:55 PM
"I campaigned for justice for ordinary people, I'd rather that justice didn't apply to me though."

That seat was a narrow Labour win at the last election.

      
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