lol!

What is the ****?

Labour won't get into government under Corbyn.

Way too sweeping. Labour have a ****ty quarterback. Their chances are significantly higher with a different quarterback. Labour's fans should root for a new QB, it's easily the most important position. But there's a lot more to an NFL team than their quarterback. The opposition's quality matters. Luck is a factor.

An economic downturn would probably give Labour a lead. A big drop is the SNP's popularity could see Labour make huge gains in Scotland (this is an overlooked factor even if most of the practical difference is between the likelihood of a Lab majority and Lab-SNP governments). We have no ****ing idea how Brexit will go. There's a decent chance (>50% imo) it's a total bureaucratic ****show. If it goes better than expected C****n is probably in big trouble. The Lib Dems could surge. The Labour party could split. A third party could form government. The last two are really unlikely, but maybe. Lib Dem surge more plausible but still unlikely. We just don't know.

Could well be that exposure to social media makes people more entrenched. That would be consistent with protest voting having a diminishing impact


It would speak to the predictive value of this result compared to similar performances in the past.

Best guess is that labour did ~as well as the tories because their support is currently neck and neck. Whether that's good or bad is debatable but it's sure a great deal better than just about everyone (including me) expected.

Labour did better in local elections under every leader since the 1970s including notably Tony Blair and Ed Miliband. Drawing a chalk target round the London results this time (and definitely not mentioning Barnet, don't anyone dare mention Barnet) is just the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_...hooter_fallacy

Barnet is an outlier because of it's large Jewish population. Jews make up ~0.5% of the UK's eligible voters. It is not a big deal for Labour.

To an extent but there are political realities as well. It's a matter of political reality that most of the heavier hitters in the labour party came up during the 'new labour' years and that that's a part of the reason for the division between between JC and too many of the heavier hitters.

Only time or giving up can resolve this properly.

Cmon Chez you must realise this just sounds like waffle and yet another excuse for a Labour failure. This is a common theme, I don't mean personally for you but among Corbynistas. There's only so long these excuses can continue before reality bites.

In the 2017 general election the SNP share of the vote dropped 13.1%. Labour increased 2.8% and the Conservatives increased 13.7%

It's speculative. call it waffle if you like, it's definitely a bit waffly

No excuses. labour are @ neck and neck with tories. Be great if they were doing better but I'd have snap taken in it if offered it when JC got the job. Way exceeding all my expectations.

It's **** of course.

It’s what the cool kids are saying these days.

What a weird little person you are. Get it all out before you're gone.

2/3 of my time? I'm averaging 3 posts a day. This one took less than 10 seconds. You're not very good at this at all.

i was taught that the best way to pursue a large concession from the other side is to give many little concessions along the way

nevertheless, quite embarrassing

Plus he used the word "literally" incorrectly. What a doofus.

Meh, I'll take the humiliation if he has any part in succeeding. I'll even give him a bit of begrudging respect.

I like the strategy of going straight to Fox and Friends. Boris obviously knows it's the only chance he has of getting the brainless bastard to actually listen to him.

Well that or Twitter.

Same thing happened in Salford. And it's evident that non-Jewish voters were also turned off by the fascist lunacy radiating from Corbyn. And Labour Party members are only 1% of the population, and the Corbynistas are mainly the members who've joined since 2015, many of them ex-EDL, ex-BNP, ex-UKIP, ex-International Socialists, ex-CPGB, ex-SWP, ex-Militant, ex-Respect. And look at the infamous Facebook forums -- Labour Party Forum, The Labour Party Forum, Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party Forum. They aren't Labour at all, they hate Labour (as does Corbyn, who's opposed every other Labour leader since Michael Foot). They're only in it for Corbyn, and their fascist idolatry of Corbyn, and their rabid anti-Semitism, and their calls for normal Labour MPs to be hanged, and their calls for civil war (like they could win a civil war -- you think the Army's going to side with them?), speak volumes.

In the local elections, if anybody's interested, Labour got a 35% vote share, level pegging with a shambolic and divided Tory government. Nowhere near the 'best result since 1971.'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43992681

Labour's best local election result was in 1995, when they got a surprising 48% of the votes. You'll never guess who the leader was at that time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...lections,_1995

is there a reason that phillip hammond is about the 18th most likely next tory leader according to odds

seems to be 99999999999999999999999x more qualified than anyone ahead of him

Pretty sure everyone in the Tory party hates him.

didnt stop drumpf or corbs

Very different selections methods for all 3 makes comparisons a bit moot.