Daniel Negreanu tweeted a few hours ago that he was fondled or they "touched my junk" by a TSA employee. If they were good at it I'd ask for a redo.

TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthetic breast

Well he did ask them if they would run it twice

Ok- given the current state of affairs I'd like to know how many of you are postponing air travel over the next 3 months? Or will you try to run good at security checkpoints? Trip reports are encouraged. Personally I was hoping to fly out to vegas last week of december with wife but I am putting that on hold for a little while hoping sanity will win out...

im flying around december 10 and will opt for the pat down.

Flew from Edmonton to Las Vegas and chose the cancer scanner. Flying across Canada a little later today, not sure what security will be like for that.

That's not bad.

So far the Courts have decided that the pat-downs/body scans don't violate the 4th Amendment. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up before the Supreme Court.

I really doubt it would make it there and if it did I don't think there is a snowball's chance that the sc would do anything about it

the 4th amendment has been dead for a while now

The really hilarious thing about this whole ordeal is that any mall in America would be a better target than an airplane.

OK anyone want to give me a legit link (aka not prisonplanet or conspiratard ********) about the safety of the cancer scanners?

ATM my problem is the with the unnecessary invasiveness of it, not the health risks.

Or the line to get in the scanner at the airport.

I'm waiting for a terrorist to do that, so that we can watch the government react, forming the TSASA who sets up screening/pat-down areas that you must pass through before getting to the screening/pat-down area.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80...y-x-ray-scans/

Nah, bubble-dome around the perimeter of the airport with a 1 1/2 mile radius (or 30 kilograms for our European friends) is the only way to truly be safe.

Mind, the only people allowed inside will have had to be taught at TSA-approved schools with TSA-approved internet access/cell phones to make sure they could never even think about committing a heinous act of destruction.

It's for the children!

OK so nothing really. Thanks.

RP is awesome.

What's so weird about this is that people with, say, knee replacements who set off the scanners, still apparently have to have their genitals cupped.

So tilting.


Too many "Suck it up and deal with it"'s in that thread.

True the scanners haven't been proven to be dangerous. The concern is that they haven't been proven to be harmless. There's also a concern about how dangerous the scanners may be when they malfunction. Are $12/hour TSA drones adequately trained to recognize and manage possible malfunctions? Doubtful.

I am at a pretty borderline distance where traveling by car and plane are somewhat equally convenient. It's a long way, but having my car with me and having room to put stuff, along with being able to bring my dog make up for it. I also don't mind long drives. The most common places I would go are around 1000 miles away. I've taken two driving trips and 1 flying (all before my son was born), and the one flying was mostly due to my wife being quite pregnant and not wanting to drive that far.

It's pretty much a no-brainer for me to drive without even thinking about flying when going with my wife and son. If I'm traveling alone for work, I'll end up flying and taking my chances, but I'm just going to drive anywhere else now. Maybe if the airlines bottom line starts seeing this hurt them, they'll be able to lobby to end this crap. We are planning a trip next summer to Colorado, which would be a 15+ hour drive or a short flight, and it's leaning very heavily toward driving now. We'll see how the trip to Arizona is with my son goes before making up our minds for sure.

There's too much of that ITT. I mean, Nick doesn't think this **** is enough.

They are new, untested long term, and have some concerns about how the radiation is calculated (going only to skin instead of spread throughout the entire body). Are they likely to be harmful? I'd say no. But I don't want to be a guinea pig.

You are assuming Nick isn't a gimmick.

I used to think this, but he actually is right that there is often a majority or at least a good plurality of Americans who agree with him on just about every position he takes. There are a lot of misguided people out there. Why can't he be one of them?

My favorite is when people argue that the lack of security screening is one of the big advantages of high speed rail.