Honestly I'm shocked at the outrage over this. It's one thing if your argument is body scans suck because they do very, very little to prevent terrorism. This we can argue about.

The argument that body scans suck because they are a violation of your rights is ridiculous. If you don't want to be scanned then don't fly. Simple. We don't have a right do drive a car. Why would we have a right to get on an airplane without a security check? And LOL at the Lew Rockwell idiot claiming that body scans and pat downs are emotionally traumatic. Since when did we get so sensitive?

Interesting, what do think the motives are then? Haven't read every post in this thread so I concede you may have answered my question in another post.

Man I hate this argument. 20 years from now when they require a strip search and anal probing to walk in a public park or drive on a public street you'll be here saying "if you don't want to be anally probed don't walk out your front door. Simple. There's no right to travel on a public street."

The argument that black people not being allowed to eat at whichever restaurant they want because it is a violation of their rights is ridiculous. If you don't want to be harassed and denied service then don't go to the restaurant. Simple. They don't have a right to eat at any restaurant they want!

Story of an enhanced patdown.

http://www.ourlittlechatterboxes.com...l-assault.html

and id like to be able to fly without being subjected to levels of radiation which could pose unknown health risks

What are you talking about? Black people DO have the right to eat at whatever restaurant they want. The courts and congress decided this a long time ago.

IMO you are being a little bit paranoid but that is your business. You still have the option of the pat down search.

wtf is this?

Clearly congress is simply advancing the will of the people. Maybe in your internet utopia you've not heard of the rioting going DEMANDING that this architect finally gets the respect he deserves!!

So you're saying we need to oppose this enhanced screening because if we don't then pretty soon there will be screening machines outside every house and apartment in the USA? Sounds like a reasonable fear to me.

No. I'm saying your "don't like it don't fly" position is hollow. There's not any real difference between flying on an airplane and traveling on a public street.

Its sort of the $64k question for me irt all of this

There are several possible ones-- some more provocative than others but all probably pretty outlandish for the mainstream crowd....

1) Just a general furtherance of the police state— which begs the question 'why?'. Why go to such efforts to control and intimidate people?

2) Seeing as the powers-that-be have had zero qualms about destroying the economy by moving industry offshore and now by inflating the dollar away, perhaps the next step is to start restricting travel?

3) Perhaps they want to get people so upset that they riot, and then they can really bring out the draconian measures?

4) Maybe the goal is to cause the airlines so much hardship due to people not wanting to fly that they are forced to nationalize them?

5) There is always the simple greed factor too regarding the amount of money going into these machines— although I doubt this would be a primary factor.

I definitely don't think the motives have anything to do with increasing safety.

And I also think that when the decision to implement these enhanced pat-downs was made, that they knew that there was going to be some backlash/horror stories that generate media attention. Which means they're prepared to accept that. We'll all see what happens of course...

A, there is a real difference between flying on a airplane and traveling on a public street. B, if you happen to be driving on a public street you have automatically given up a ton of rights that you have compared to if you were walking on a public street.

unless you're an anarchist....?

There's quite a leap between limited government and house resolutions to honor people who have been dead for 400 years.

only in your imagination yo.

More at http://dailypaul.com/node/149693

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEJC-FuOSZ4

11k fine for saying "Don't touch my junk"

When you go through the nude scans, the govverment assure you that you are only viewed by an officer alone in a room with no windows so they can masturbate in peace. And if you complain about you or your children being fondled, then you get an 11k fine.

Nothing to see here.

Ron Paul Video From Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZqqAREu3tY Joe Lieberman: TSA Porn & Groping is Great!

Liberals know what's best for you.

great speech btw IMO

I look at that quote again and I can't imagine how it could be read that way.

SO AWESOME - Recap of Bill proposed by Dr. Paul

1) have all of congress anally probed including executive branch

2) laugh and stare at them

3) feed them cake until they are fat and then EAT THEM

LOLOLOLOL So much WINNNN

i think you may have missed something with #3 but whatevs. good enough.