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01-28-2017 , 07:38 PM

#1476

BigRedChief

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Mr. Trump. Steve Job’s biological father’s name was Abdulfattah Jandali. He came to the US as a student. He was from Homs, Syria.

01-28-2017 , 07:51 PM

#1477

Noze

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

http://www.summiticeapparel.com/

I got it immediately, lol.

01-28-2017 , 10:33 PM

#1478

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggymike

I guess a takeover by homeschooled Evangelicals is now a possibility

At the minimum this admin wants to eliminate science (all of it) for creationism but yeah seems so. Great.

Last edited by wheatrich; 01-28-2017 at 10:46 PM.

01-28-2017 , 11:28 PM

#1479

Paul D

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/t...known-45111202

01-31-2017 , 05:14 PM

#1480

lumberajack

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http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-...trumps-america

01-31-2017 , 07:48 PM

#1481

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Today I had to pick up my daughter early from day care, after it was evacuated due to a bomb threat. (She goes to day care at a local Jewish Community Center). It was one of at least 30 JCC's in 17 states nationwide that recieved bomb threats today, and it is the third time this month that such threats have been made to various JCC's around the country.

Last edited by fxwacgesvrhdtf; 01-31-2017 at 07:54 PM.

01-31-2017 , 08:00 PM

#1482

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

Also, FWIW, this is the first time I've experience anti-semitism directly in about 25 years.

01-31-2017 , 08:23 PM

#1483

microbet

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I know it's mostly that I'm too wrapped up in this, but today there was a test of the emergency broadcast system on the radio and it's the first time I ever heard the alert and thought it might not just be a test.

01-31-2017 , 08:31 PM

#1484

Jbrochu

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Meanwhile in ultra-liberal Newton, MA...

Quote:

In this affluent, largely white Boston suburb — where roughly 75 percent of voters cast a ballot for Hillary Clinton — the meeting room is on edge.

Those against sanctuary city status voice anxiety about undocumented immigrants causing machete attacks and a spike in tuberculosis.

“You want to take a chance that our water supply might be poisoned? Our bridges blown up?” asked one resident.

Another man took the podium, stating, “One wonders if there was a fire in an apartment building, if any of the sanctuary city folks would have a moral dilemma deciding about saving their own family before strangers.”

“We are better off if we collectively stick our fingers into a bowl of Ebola and lick them. Our deaths will be quicker and less painful,” said another.

“I have some serious fears — real fears.”

You can listen to it here:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-01-...wtons-politics

Just kill me now.

01-31-2017 , 08:46 PM

#1485

vaya

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Meanwhile in ultra-liberal Newton, MA...

You can listen to it here:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-01-...wtons-politics

Just kill me now.

Liberals need to get better at framing and language. Detainers should be considered unconstitutional whether you're charged with an immigration violation or shoplifting. "Sanctuary cities" is an awful and misleading characterization.

02-01-2017 , 03:48 AM

#1486

Louis Cyphre

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Poisoning the wells (water supply). Where have I heard that before?

02-01-2017 , 06:54 AM

#1487

SuperUberBob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

I haven't heard one of those since before I had cable tv. Sounds like an omen to me.

02-01-2017 , 07:58 AM

#1488

raradevils

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

I haven't heard one of those since before I had cable tv. Sounds like an omen to me.

FWIW they run regularly and have for many years now. I fall asleep to the TV and get woken up from time to time if it runs before the delayed timer on the TV shuts it off.

02-01-2017 , 09:55 AM

#1489

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Meanwhile in ultra-liberal Newton, MA...

You can listen to it here:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-01-...wtons-politics

Just kill me now.

I... don't understand the comment about saving ones own family over a group of strangers.

Is he saying immigrants wouldn't save their families, or wouldn't save strangers?

Like seriously, I cannot for the life of me make out the point in that statement

02-01-2017 , 10:15 AM

#1490

5ive

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Originally Posted by master3004

It took me a couple passes.

America is the apartment on fire, the family is the fellow Americans, so the 'sanctuary city folks' are being myopic and obtuse, and perhaps hypocritical and unnatural, because in a literal fire obviously they'd save their family and not strangers.

It's a pretty tortured analogy because the fire is both present and future, and also perhaps hypothetical even within the figurative example.

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02-01-2017 , 10:18 AM

#1491

5ive

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Also, Ebola doesn't come in bowls.

02-01-2017 , 10:18 AM

#1492

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 5ive

Jesus, that's a terrible analogy

02-01-2017 , 10:25 AM

#1493

TeflonDawg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vaya

They need to call up Frank Luntz and double his pay...

Or find a Frank Luntz from the opposite end of his spectrum.

02-01-2017 , 10:53 AM

#1494

5ive

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Originally Posted by master3004

Jesus, that's a terrible analogy

Apparently refugees are highly flammable, or something.

02-01-2017 , 11:00 AM

#1495

einbert

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I still like my analogy with "The Devastator!" from Mr. Show. America is the Hutchinson brothers, Trump is The Devastator (a rollercoaster that literally kills people, but people keep lining up for continuously), and 2017 is Thrill World. It's a horrific disaster that noone seems to be able to stop, but it's one that we're continually accepting each day at the same time.

02-06-2017 , 01:28 AM

#1496

goofyballer

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In today's edition of TIWRAB in Trump's America, on a visit to Metacritic just now I noticed that I Am Not Your Negro (a new documentary about James Baldwin) has insanely good reviews. Upon clicking through, I then noticed a certain group of user reviews:

Oh, Trumpkins.

02-06-2017 , 01:02 PM

#1497

Louis Cyphre

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Never heard about the movie before yesterday when I saw it on imdb as a new release. Checked the rating: 5.8. Meh. Probably not worth watching.
After your post I checked the ratings distribution.
36.1% -> 10 Stars
44.7% -> 1 Star
(the rest skews towards 8/9)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5804038/...?ref_=tt_ov_rt

02-06-2017 , 05:15 PM

#1498

Minirra

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That's going to be a thing permanently. Trolls basically search out anything perceived to further any kind of progressive ideology (books by liberals, movies about black folks) and leave bad reviews.

Fortunately I think this is something liberal-type folk can account for and adapt to quickly. Being able to apply a healthy bit of skepticism of sources without going full sheep is sort of our bag.

02-06-2017 , 09:33 PM

#1499

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

IMDB ratings are like the YouTube comments of film reviews.

02-07-2017 , 09:16 AM

#1500

einbert

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Ordinary Americans carried out inhumane acts for Trump
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opi...206-story.html

Quote:

A week ago, men and women went to work at airports around the United States as they always do. They showered, got dressed, ate breakfast, perhaps dropped off their kids at school. Then they reported to their jobs as federal government employees, where, according to news reports, one of them handcuffed a 5-year-old child, separated him from his mother and detained him alone for several hours at Dulles airport.

At least one other federal employee at Dulles reportedly detained a woman who was traveling with her two children, both U.S. citizens, for 20 hours without food. A relative says the mother was handcuffed (even when she went to the bathroom) and threatened with deportation to Somalia.

At Kennedy Airport, still other federal employees detained and handcuffed a 65-year-old woman traveling from Qatar to visit her son, who is a U.S. citizen and serviceman stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C. The woman was held for more than 33 hours, according to the New York Times, and denied use of a wheelchair.

The men and women who work for the federal government completed these and other tasks and then returned to their families, where perhaps they had dinner and read stories to their children before bedtime.

When we worry and wonder about authoritarian regimes that inflict cruelty on civilians, we often imagine tyrannical despots unilaterally advancing their sinister agendas. But no would-be autocrat can act alone. As a practical matter, he needs subordinates willing to carry out orders. Of course, neither Donald Trump nor Steve Bannon personally detained any of the more than 100 people held at airports over the weekend pursuant to the administration's executive order on immigration, visitation and travel to the United States. They relied on assistance.

The men and women who reportedly handcuffed small children and the elderly, separated a child from his mother and held others without food for 20 hours, are undoubtedly "ordinary" people. What I mean by that, is that these are, in normal circumstances, people who likely treat their neighbors and co-workers with kindness and do not intentionally seek to harm others. That is chilling, as it is a reminder that authoritarians have no trouble finding the people they need to carry out their acts of cruelty. They do not need special monsters; they can issue orders to otherwise unexceptional people who will carry them out dutifully.

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