Seriously the one person who is doing it right is Hillary. Wandering the woods and taking selfies is the correct move for her, She Built This.

My whole life it's been the same story: when Democrats lose, they try to find new ways to accommodate conservatives. Now the beard-stroking commentariat are telling us we need to find ways to pander that guy on a plane screaming about Hillary Bitches. At no point has any of the coddling made the right any less irate.

At some point the left just has to wake the **** up and stand behind some basic principles.

Therein lies the problem. They are afraid to tell the voters how they really stand. Instead they focus group to determine the best way to present their case and are phony. They have to be phony though. The majority (states not population) of the country doesn't want what they are selling.

Sorry, this is demonstrably untrue. Obama's approval is still high; when he ran on giving free commie healthcare to plots he crushed it twice. Support for min wage hikes, gun control, and various other liberal ideas is very strong. Dems lose because they put forward phony fence-sitters while the right stands on principle. They're terrible, fascist principles, but people prefer that to having no principles. Your second sentence is correct, the Dems are weirdly afraid to campaign on **** like Obamacare and job creation.

The flag burning kerfluffle is a great example. It's super easy for the SeattleLous out there to point out that Hillary supported the same **** as Trump back in the day. Sure she's clearly the lesser of two evils here, but the blatant pandering and triangulating has crippled the party's response.

Man rara going HAM on like the TRUE AMERICA is some summation of states. Sure OK there might be 320 million Americans but the way to count is to see if 26 states agree with you.

Or like, not 26 of the loser states. A sum of 270 electorate votes. That's the CRITICAL thing.

Trump's Top Strategist Is A Self Described "Leninist" (but doesn't remember saying that ...)

Well, this is interesting ...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-leninist.html

I bet former Republican Congressman Eric Cantor, who dreamed of becoming America's first Jewish President, isn't a member of the Steve Bannon fan club.

I was thinking about this comment and how the Democrats are just awful at political messaging. They let Republicans dog whistle about Chicago and liberal cities all day long and don't once dare use their tactics against them because they are so hopeful about possibly flipping some Southern states. Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky et al are never flipping, so just point out how these deep red states are poverty-stricken **** holes that contribute little to America as a whole. Yeah Wyoming is pretty and Idaho grows potatoes but what do they offer economically or culturally? You know what would make North Dakota useful? Cover it in wind farms to power the Pacific Northwest and California. People in Wisconsin are worried about jobs? Maybe stop electing a guy whose only talent seems to be breaking up unions, transferring wealth upwards, and maybe disenfranchising people. You think your job prospects there are bad? Move to Louisiana and let us know what you think. Like I get the strategy of going for states with large urban and young populations like NC and Georgia, but ultimately they can succeed without those. Some of those states are also going to have to eventually elect Democratic governors as well due to population shifts.

I died the problem is it's hard to see where the incentives come in for Democrats when people will vote Republican for things like being furious about safe spaces on liberal universities that they will never come within 1000 miles of.

People got up in their feelings about Clinton saying "basket of deplorables". Have you ****ing listened to how conservatives talk about liberals? They openly campaign against coastal elites, gays, Muslims, blacks, intellectuals, and so forth.

The first draft of the GOP's response to the 47% comment by Romney was "oh yeah that's true we can't win people voting themselves food stamps", and they only walked that back once they realized it played poorly. But it absolutely is what they believe.


4 years before that, Obama's own basket of deplorables comment was THIS, for ****'s sake:
There's no way to make them happy and the constant efforts to bend over and seem conciliatory just cost you all the low info people who only see one side actually FIGHTING.

Damn obama was so far ahead of the curve.

I love how you are intentionally valuing empty land above people because even you realise that the majority of Americans do want what they are selling.

I value people in flyover country as much or more than I value people in the cities/coasts.

Could be wrong, but I thought the first time I read rara's post, it just said "more than" without the "as much or." Scary if I'm right, still pretty bad in any case.

What happened to "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."?

nothing, all people are created equal.

Btw, once again, even my microscopic levels of faith in people are proven to be too large. Before his last post, I was going to argue that:

"No, rara's just saying that's the way the system is set up, Dems can't win if states by and large don't buy what their selling. He's not actually saying states > people."

Nope, totally wrong.

bahahahahaha what is it with these people?

And no, this isn't just "lol holiday shopping", because normal holiday shopping rants don't involve claiming you (as a white person) were discriminated against by black people.

We know, rara.

lol you don't even believe your own bull**** dude, you JUST posted that what matters here is states not population.

Let's face it "As much or more" just really means "More"

So why?

Why is this the real America? Why isn't it Manhattan or Silicon Valley or DC or the research triangle in NC or the knowledge economy in the Boston area?

Why is it these small towns? What makes their opinion so valuable?

They probably give rara all the nostalgic feels about the scrappy hardworking white 1950s America he grew up in

Seems rather bizarre, given the propensity for blue coastal states to pay the way for welfare-abusing red states to continue to exist with our tax dollars:

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-mos...vernment/2700/

NYT with a new feature called The Week In Hate looking over the happenings in Trump's America. A selection:

TRUMP

(the article links to original stories for all of these)

Hey rara the Republicans lost the popular vote by over 2,200,000 votes. Just because you have taken advantage of terrible, unreliable software (Electoral College and gerrymandering) to create a political advantage, don't think for a second that you represent the majority of this country. The majority of this country is progressive and it's getting more progressive every day.

Nate Silver

Trump will soon become the first president who failed to win a majority of the vote either in the general election or in his primary*.

Boom. Tell it. I got a weed store on the corner son gonna go burn some flags with my gay friends. At least der Orange Führer won Big Trout Trailer Park by 80 pts.

I really thought this was an Onion headline until I saw it was from a news organization

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/oreg...in-her-binder/