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Originally Posted by suzzer99
My old buddy from HS and college came to visit for a few days. Dude has always been super liberal but of the more radical variety. Like in our early 20s he got the anarchy zine and truly thought anarchy was the solution. I'd make fun of the NAMBLA articles in each issue and ask him what about the road warriors. He is (maybe was) a huge Chomsky fan and was into the Situationists (some French anarchic movement or something).
He had worked for Students for Dukakis and we went to the Democratic convention in '88 and bluffed our way in to a bunch of stuff. At the same time we'd get in arguments about stuff like whether the US was really "more free" than the Soviet Union at the time. I was deemed hopelessly naive by him and our other friend for even suggesting we might be. Reverse Cargo Cult is a freaking seductive narrative. No one wants to be naive.
Anyway obviously I felt pretty safe bashing Trump if/when the subject came up on our first day. Later that night we got drunk and he told me he voted Trump, thinks Trump is a decent guy and is doing a pretty good job. I tried to pick at the edges w/o getting into a huge throwdown. (Yes granted the establishment is terrible, but things can get much much worse, etc.)
All of his reasons were pure choose-your-own-adventure argle-bargle. He doesn't believe any of the Russia stuff. Voted for Obama twice, feels betrayed (because the establishment still exists I guess). I don't remember many other details, but for example he claimed a vote for Trump is a vote against authoritarianism. o_O
The next day I woke up wishing it was all a bad dream. We didn't talk politics for the rest of the trip - just got drunk and watched basketball.
Oh yeah - in least shocking development my buddy is also by his own admission kinda racist (mostly against Muslims). And he's lived in Florida for 15 years or so. The ol' racist radical liberal turned Trumpfan. Rings a few bells.
I'd be more depressed, but we stopped really connecting a while back. He's kind of a dark dude. Still it's kinda painful and thinking about it even enough to make this post is exhausting.
It's depressing when you think what happens to some well intentioned people sometimes.
The Situationists were a very interesting subversive grouping in the late 60s, daubing radical/surreal slogans in public places ("Under the pavement, the beach!"), borrowing irrational behaviour as a means of provocational propaganda from the Dadaists and espousing the society of the spectacle. They were a huge influence on one Malcolm McClaren, and therefore indirectly on the whole of the 70s punk rock movement.
From that to supporting Trump is a hell of a fall.