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So it turns out this super scary 4th Reich registry was in effect from 2002-2011. Are you ****ing kidding me?

"The United States had a registry for high-risk immigrants implemented after the 9/11 attacks, but it dissolved in 2011 after questions about anti-Muslim bias and redundancy, Reuters reports.
Trump has no obligation to follow these recommendations."

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...y-says-adviser

Well, he had a chance to say "it's just high-risk immigrants, not even all immigrants, much less all muslims and citizens" but instead, whelp...

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11-18-2016 , 12:23 AM

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Breitbart Traffic Down As Readers Now Getting Bulk Of News Analysis From Graffiti Scrawled Across Neighborhood

11-18-2016 , 12:55 AM

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A donation made in the name of a racist aunt or uncle makes a great Thanksgiving/Christmas gift for said aunt or uncle.

Planning Clinton foundation donations in their name for all the Trump supporters in my family for Xmas.

11-18-2016 , 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by m_reed05

Planning Clinton foundation donations in their name for all the Trump supporters in my family for Xmas.

There is a 0% chance you or anyone else ever donates a penny more to the Clinton foundation. There's a lot of pissed off wall street execs and arabs right now who wish they hadn't donated.

11-18-2016 , 01:20 AM

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Planning Clinton foundation donations in their name for all the Trump supporters in my family for Xmas.

Oh c'mon man, At least give it to the UNCF or something. You know, a real charity. Though I'll admit the burn would have been worth it had she won.

11-18-2016 , 02:05 AM

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As I stated before, how is 'list of immigrants from x country" not automatically done already by default with existing immigration data. sort by: "afghanistan" etc.

11-18-2016 , 02:07 AM

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Oh c'mon man, At least give it to the UNCF or something. You know, a real charity. Though I'll admit the burn would have been worth it had she won.

The Clinton Foundation is a real charity.

11-18-2016 , 02:09 AM

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Clinton Foundation is not a real charity?

11-18-2016 , 02:14 AM

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The Clinton Foundation is a real charity.

Sure, part of it is. Like GE is a light bulb company. They just both do other stuff too.

11-18-2016 , 02:15 AM

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Sure, part of it is. Like GE is a light bulb company. They just both do other stuff too.

False. C'mon man.

11-18-2016 , 02:29 AM

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False. C'mon man.

Well according to "Charity Navigator" the financials sure appear to be on the up and up:

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...ry&orgid=16680

meaning you're right and I'm wrong. I'll assume this is the case unless someone wants to throw dirt on Charity Navigator for me.

But what about the e-mails?

11-18-2016 , 02:30 AM

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What about which emails?

11-18-2016 , 02:32 AM

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What about which emails?

That was a joke

11-18-2016 , 03:16 AM

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Background: apparently Chili's gives free meals to veterans on Veterans' Day. My gf just told me about this:

Trump supporter questions black veteran's service status at Chili's, manager takes his meal away even as the vet tries to show his military papers

No words, this is so awful. And as sad as this is, I'd probably put this in the category of stuff that probably would happen fairly often but just wasn't reported as much before Trump got elected.

11-18-2016 , 03:20 AM

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It's really hard for me to believe that these tribal idiots aren't significantly fired up now that they've taken the country over. The SPLC seems to think Trumplemania is a thing, tho maybe they're just trying to boost donations.

Hate crime stats when all is said and done (in the trump run) should show if its just media hype and our normal hate level.

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But what about the e-mails?

If the Russians leaked them the other way around to influence an election in favor of a democrat the right would want trials for treason?

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11-18-2016 , 05:46 AM

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Trump tweet claims he worked to keep Kentucky auto plant from moving to Mexico. Claims to save jobs.

Truth - Nah

11-18-2016 , 07:40 AM

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The manager was punished for doing this. He was at least demoted or fired.

http://www.fox4news.com/news/217491054-story

#stolenvalore is real it's still reprehensible that someone would accuse an individual of doing this without having full knowledge.

11-18-2016 , 08:37 AM

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Yup we went through this during the campaign. Not trying to be snarky at all, but it turns out Clinton Foundation is very well-respected (Rating: A https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings...foundation/478) while Trump Foundation is probably more sketchy. TF isn't rated by the main charity watchdogs and even conservatives have pointed out how it seems to be less about philanthropy and more about, well....

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...-scam-charity/

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The Donald J. Trump Foundation is not like other charities. An investigation of the foundation — including examinations of 17 years of tax filings and interviews with more than 200 individuals or groups listed as donors or beneficiaries — found that it collects and spends money in a very unusual manner.

For one thing, nearly all of its money comes from people other than Trump. In tax records, the last gift from Trump was in 2008. Since then, all of the donations have been other people’s money — an arrangement that experts say is almost unheard of for a family foundation.

Trump then takes that money and generally does with it as he pleases. In many cases, he passes it on to other charities, which often are under the impression that it is Trump’s own money.

In two cases, he has used money from his charity to buy himself a gift. In one of those cases — not previously reported — Trump spent $20,000 of money earmarked for charitable purposes to buy a six-foot-tall painting of himself.

Money from the Trump Foundation has also been used for political purposes, which is against the law. The Washington Post reported this month that Trump paid a penalty this year to the Internal Revenue Service for a 2013 donation in which the foundation gave $25,000 to a campaign group affiliated with Florida Attorney General Pamela Bondi (R).

11-18-2016 , 09:20 AM

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11-18-2016 , 10:46 AM

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Actually I think a lot of these stories just went underreported before and Trump's election makes them fashionable to report on.

So my take:

1. tons of Americans are unvarnished racist *******s and these racially, religiously motivated incidents of violence and derp were actually frighteningly common pre Trump
2. the media was largely disinterested on putting this on display
3. it's now decent clickbait so we're talking about it

I'm a little aghast at the media and some liberals who are making this about Trump. I mean I'm sure he's maybe triggering some bad impulses but I feel like America's unreformed troglodyte masses saying wretched racist ****, terrorizing minorities, being clowns -- that was pre Trump America too. I feel like I must have lived in some other country for a long time but I guess I now welcome everyone to realize the depths of the inhumanity surrounding us.

This is exactly right. And the next insight to have is the realization that while all of what you just said is definitely true, it is ALSO true that this is the best the world has ever been and it is continuing to improve, on all these fronts, at an impressive rate.

Blissful naivete obviously wrong, but profound despair way wrong too

11-18-2016 , 11:08 AM

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Wait we're supposed to realize these things? I mean if anything could roll these issues back it appears to be the incredibly regressive conservative team that Trump is assembling. Registering of people by religion immediately sets us back quite a ways.

What are Trump voters going to realize over the next four years? He campaigned on telling people that our inner cities are worse than third world countries and crime is rampant; since most of his support is non-urban they will never be forced to reckon with the fact that crime in most of our cities is way down.

11-18-2016 , 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by einbert

LOL so yeah I guess if you ignore how the chief fundraiser for the foundation brags about how he also helped secure 50-100 million to Bill Clinton Inc by twisting the same donors to pay for speeches and other business while only working for the foundation, it looks pretty good.

11-18-2016 , 02:19 PM

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11-18-2016 , 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kahlgar

Hate crimes went up by 40% after Brexit, it's pretty reasonable to expect a more significant raise in the US given how much Trump pandered to white supremacists and the extensive american history of racial discrimination.

Not as bad but it is bad here. It helps a lot that we have some tools to deal with it as hate speech is illegal.

(and we dont have guns which always helps)

11-18-2016 , 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

So my take:

1. tons of Americans are unvarnished racist *******s and these racially, religiously motivated incidents of violence and derp were actually frighteningly common pre Trump
2. the media was largely disinterested on putting this on display
3. it's now decent clickbait so we're talking about it

I'm a little aghast at the media and some liberals who are making this about Trump. I mean I'm sure he's maybe triggering some bad impulses but I feel like America's unreformed troglodyte masses saying wretched racist ****, terrorizing minorities, being clowns -- that was pre Trump America too. I feel like I must have lived in some other country for a long time but I guess I now welcome everyone to realize the depths of the inhumanity surrounding us.

Trust me, America is not the only country going in this direction. It's just that America got there very quickly. Pretty much the entirety of Europe is slowly moving towards right-wing populism or is already there. The Kremlin funds far-right parties because of their Euroskepticism. They are likely banking on the dissolution of the EU in the distant future by hoping that these parties gain some traction so they can more easily invade these countries.

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