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Yeah, I hate seeing articles on national and international news with headlines like "Republican politician says all Mexican Americans should be deported," and it turns out to be some city council person from Bum****, Indiana. I always end up imagining somebody in Afghanistan whose whole family was bombed to bits seeing that article on CNN and no mention of what happened to their folks.

06-24-2017 , 10:39 AM

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The dude is the: the volunteer co-chairman of the Nebraska Democratic Party’s technology committee.

It's such a joke when the media finds some two bit nobody with a D or an R after their name and makes some huge headline like:

NEBRASKA DEMOCRAT PRAYS FOR THE DEATH OF WOUNDED AMERICAN HERO STEPHEN J SCALISE.

This is the Washington Post for Christsakes?!

Might as well as just troll the 2+2 Forums with the following headlines:

TWO PLUS TWO POLITARD DEMOCRAT WISHES FOR THE DEATH OF 60 MILLION AMERICANS

FlyWF (D) posted today on the prestigious 2+2 Political forum that the he wished slow death on all 60 million American Racists who voted for President Donald J Trump.

Good point and it reminds me of how the main focus of Trumpkins' criticism is something about the PC things children at Evergreen St. college say vs. the anti-Trump criticisms of things said and done by the POTUS and Congress.

06-24-2017 , 11:47 AM

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Never any criticism of legislation that is expected to lead to the deaths of thousands of Americans though

06-24-2017 , 03:00 PM

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Right. Meanwhile you have Steve Scalise selling himself as "David Duke without the baggage" (his words, not mine) and Jeff Sessions who openly prosecuted voting rights activists as legitimate powerful people in the Republican party. The media's need to draw a false equivalence seems to only get worse and worse as the sins of the Republican party grow deeper and more vicious.

06-25-2017 , 06:55 PM

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All these news stories about high schoolers and even middle schoolers—so what? There's a reason 15-year-olds can't vote—they lack the mental faculties to make prudent decisions. The same can be said for most people of voting age, but still, we need to draw a line somewhere. Am I going to be reading headlines soon about how a 7-year-old in Mississippi names his cat Darky? I doubt these oblivious kids are suddenly changing their behavior because they sense a shift in the zeitgeist now that Trump is poised to preside. It's just that these sensationalist dog **** media outlets are pushing these stories and sore anti-Trumpers are pervading them through social media.

No. Your anti-PC movement is a pro-racism movement and you're ruining the country.

06-25-2017 , 11:10 PM

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I drove past a house with US, Confederate and Mexico flags mounted in his yard in exurban IL. He also had a handwritten sign explaining this, but I was driving too fast to read it.

06-25-2017 , 11:39 PM

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I drove past a house with US, Confederate and Mexico flags mounted in his yard in exurban IL. He also had a handwritten sign explaining this, but I was driving too fast to read it.

I would slam on the brakes like an old lady driving by a yard sale and stop to see what the sign says. That is some intriguing **** right there.

06-25-2017 , 11:45 PM

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Local crime news in Ohio is creepy as heck sometimes. I blame opioids. And Trump.

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One person was taken into custody tonight after a report of a bloody and naked man at a wastewater treatment facility in Jefferson Twp.

The incident was reported around 7:30 p.m. at Clean Water Ltd, 300 Cherokee Drive, according to the Montgomery County Regional Dispatch Center.

It's not clear why the man was bloody and nude, nor why he showed up at the business.

06-26-2017 , 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

I would slam on the brakes like an old lady driving by a yard sale and stop to see what the sign says. That is some intriguing **** right there.

this x inf

u should drive back there today to find out and update itt

06-27-2017 , 10:08 AM

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A former co-worker of mine posted this on facebook today. He's an old, white guy. Doesn't seem like he was ever a hardcore Trumpkin but seems like someone who would've supported him at one point and at least been sympathetic to his "make america great again" "we're getting ripped off" "i want an old, white authoritarian guy as president" candidacy.

06-30-2017 , 02:30 AM

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https://twitter.com/pslweb/status/880541097126092802

06-30-2017 , 02:37 AM

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Arm yourselves and if the fascists threaten you, kill them. It's not the time to play around with this stuff.

06-30-2017 , 02:45 AM

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Not that I'm really close to this at the moment, but I'll move before I arm myself because I'm worried about being attacked. Maybe if I were younger or older or without children or maybe when my kids are on their own, but for now I'll find something to do other than kill or die.

06-30-2017 , 02:46 AM

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If you're not worried about being attacked you're not organizing hard enough.

06-30-2017 , 02:48 AM

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the nra ad is working on you

06-30-2017 , 03:12 AM

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If you're not worried about being attacked you're not organizing hard enough.

I've been to a Marxist Humanist meeting this week, so I guess that attack could have been at me. But, I've also ridden a motorcycle, changed a main breaker on an unfused electrical bus, picked up a hitch hiker, climbed on roofs about fifty times and been three doors down from a crazy fight where people were trying to run over other people with their cars, all this week, so keeping things in perspective, fascist attack isn't that dangerous right yet.

06-30-2017 , 05:13 AM

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If you're not worried about being attacked you're not organizing hard enough.

I think you need a hug from Steve Bannon.

06-30-2017 , 07:13 AM

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I think you need a hug from Steve Bannon.

I was about to say you're projecting your desires but then I realized you said 'hug' and not 'reach-around'.

06-30-2017 , 07:19 AM

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https://twitter.com/_cingraham/statu...66303253118977

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/sta...61530059853824

06-30-2017 , 10:03 AM

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Change a few words and symbols in that NRA ad and it would be ISIS propaganda.

06-30-2017 , 04:17 PM

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All of these are great apart from riding a motorbike and picking up hitch hikers, which should be completely normal and not at all dangerous in a civilised society, and usually are.

The reason they aren't regarded as safe in America is because of gun laws.

06-30-2017 , 04:40 PM

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https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/statu...87582048964608

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Be wary of paramilitaries. When the men with guns who have always claimed to be against the system start wearing uniforms and marching with torches and pictures of a leader the end is nigh. When the pro-leader paramilitary and the official police and military intermingle, the end has come.

https://brucegerencser.net/2017/04/t...imothy-snyder/

06-30-2017 , 04:58 PM

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https://twitter.com/dougbrown8/statu...42900577206272

This is not good.

06-30-2017 , 05:08 PM

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https://twitter.com/dougbrown8/statu...42900577206272

This is not good.

I agree. Related:

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

I would sort of middle the point between "ignore these clowns" and "but wait, this is troubling" that right now, it seems like these paramilitary angrydudebros remain largely marginalized but that their emergence is almost uniformly a troubling sign. One of the things that might portend their success in the future is the increasing fusion between their talking points and ideas and the mainstream GOP. And then the eventual coordination with a mainstream political opponent to harass and intimidate political opponents. I mean Steve ****ing Bannon is an incredibly powerful person; while it may not portend much, I think we've moved outside the bounds of theoretical and into a genuine threat. OTOH most of these ACT protests yesterday were sparsely populated and had more counter protestors than protestors and you can hardly call these right wing paramilitary dudes as anything approaching the popularity of the second incarnation of the Klan in the 1920s.

Don't think this is saying anything controversial or that interesting, but I do think concern about these guys is warranted in the current climate. The Klan went from an empty shell and dispersed into masses of uncoordinated groups in the 1870s after the federal government cracked down on it to ~10% of the population and up to ~50% of some areas of the country by 1920. We're met with a common tale: a waning appetite to confront these groups and ignore them (the federal government essentially pulled out of the South by 1880, and northern elites and newspapers functionally stopped covering them) and their eventual aggrandizement and growth when left undisturbed. It didn't happen immediately or on its own, but happened when the appropriate political, social and economic climate emerged that white southerners felt threatened again and joined the backlash wholesale, and did much to violently repress blacks in the South -- often in coordination with the Democratic Party and to their benefit.

That's the lesson learned here, that revanchist right wing paramilitary groups who serve to be the violent political arm of a mainstream political party can be very 'effective' at their goals to entrench one party and deny the civic and political rights of racial minorities if left to their own devices.

Also to retroactively fix my post, I meant to say: One of the things that might portend their success in the future is the increasing fusion between their talking points and ideas and the mainstream GOP. And then the eventual coordination with a mainstream political opponent party to harass and intimidate political opponents.

06-30-2017 , 05:11 PM

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Anyway, the fusion between mainstream political parties and paramilitary organizations is usually like number 1A in bright neon lights in the list of signs that your country is devolving into authoritarianism.

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