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06-06-2017 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
he'd blame the kids that felt bad and their parents obv. Blame the victim is the classic strategy, republicans starting to seize on that. Shamefully for all of us, it works.
Unless the victim is them, then they blame someone else. But they have always been seizing on that.
06-07-2017 , 01:04 AM
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ot-even-people

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President Trump’s son Eric Trump on Tuesday said Democrats are “not even people” to him after their obstruction of his father’s agenda.

“I’ve never seen hatred like this,” he said on Fox News’s “Hannity” Tuesday night. “To me, they’re not even people. It’s so, so sad. Morality’s just gone, morals have flown out the window and we deserve so much better than this as a country."
so that's both of his sons pulling out the nazi shtick
06-07-2017 , 02:27 AM
The Kansas legislature has repealed Brownback's tax cuts, over his veto. http://www.kansascity.com/news/polit...154691724.html
06-07-2017 , 02:52 AM
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BuzzFeed News reviewed more than 50 reports of school bullying since the election and found that kids nationwide are using Trump’s words to taunt their classmates.
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In suburban Dallas, one mother said her sixth-grade son came home from school on Election Day and told her that some classmates had taunted him and two friends on the playground that morning: “Heil Hitlary,” one boy said; another said, “One million of your lives is worth less than 30,000 deleted emails.” After the boy recalled the incident, he asked his mother, “How did they know we’re Jewish?”
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On Election Day in Silverton, Oregon, around three dozen students gathered in their high school’s parking lot, holding Trump signs and waving American flags. When Latino students passed by, teens in the crowd shouted "Pack your bags, you're leaving tomorrow!" and "Tell your family goodbye!"

At a Philadelphia prep school, four white students posed for a photo while holding pictures of the Confederate flag and Donald Trump. In the weeks after the election, pro-Trump messages, alongside racist pejoratives and symbols, were spray-painted on walls at schools in Newtown, Pennsylvania; Suwanee, Georgia; and Brookline, Massachusetts.

In Millersburg, Pennsylvania, a Latina high school student broke into tears when more than 30 classmates chanted “Trump!” at her. In York County, Pennsylvania, a group of high school students holding Trump signs marched through the halls; one shouted “white power.” In Coppell, Texas, a Latino high school student found on his desk a goodbye card with a note suggesting he would be deported and ending, “Make America Great Again! Adios!”

On a school bus in a suburb of St. Louis, a white teen said to a black teen, “Are you ready to get back on the boat now that Trump is president?” In a fifth-grade classroom in Greensboro, North Carolina, a Latino boy cried after another student told him, “Donald Trump wants to send you guys away. He doesn’t want you here.”
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After a white third-grade boy chanted “build the wall” at a Latina classmate at a Louisville elementary school, the teacher and principal gathered the class and told them the boy’s actions had been racist. Not everybody was pleased with this lecture.

“Parents got mad that the school said it was racist,” said the mother of another boy in the class.
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The same argument emerged in May when a high school in North Carolina confiscated yearbooks after administrators discovered that one student’s senior quote was “Build that wall.” A message on the district’s Facebook page called the quote “inappropriate.” Hundreds of people left comments, mostly criticizing the decision:

“This is a violation of the student's rights!!!”

“What is so ‘racist’ about the quote?”

“Quoting the POTUS is never inappropriate!”
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After Trump won, we tried to tell our kids not to worry, but then we started hearing a lot of hate,” she said. A classmate at the school, which is predominantly white, called her son a “Mexican churro.” When her son scored a goal at a soccer game at recess, another classmate said, “Don’t worry, he’s going to be deported pretty soon.” There were frequent “build the wall” jokes.

She informed the principal and the parish priest, she said, but they took no action. When she went to the mother of one of the boys who had targeted her son, the woman defended the comments, saying that the boy was merely “expressing his political point of view.”
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertsamah...QXx#.jvnP1nE3V
06-08-2017 , 02:00 AM
How the election of trump is killing us all

https://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...-2016-election
06-08-2017 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
How the election of trump is killing us all

https://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...-2016-election
I haven't read the article, but it seems very plausible to me.
06-08-2017 , 09:41 PM
it's true, stress-related health ailments will def go up in the next couple years. bet on that.
06-08-2017 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
I wonder who Trump would blame for this if he saw the article? Can't blame himself. Or the kids. Or their deplorable voting parents. Teachers, Democrats, MSM, Obama, Deep State, all not involved.
As a father, there is only one source to blame for this and that is the parents.

Kids are naturally non-racist. Put a black, a white, a Latino, and a Pakistani kid in a sandbox and they'll get along just fine. If they do have any problems, they'll work things out without skin color ever coming into to it.

Sorry. This one's on the parents. Not Trump. Kids have to be taught to be bigots.
06-08-2017 , 10:29 PM
I must say I'm saddened, but not at all surprised, to see Pennsylvania represented in those anecdotes. York is a terrible city, FWIW.

06-08-2017 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
As a father, there is only one source to blame for this and that is the parents.

Kids are naturally non-racist. Put a black, a white, a Latino, and a Pakistani kid in a sandbox and they'll get along just fine. If they do have any problems, they'll work things out without skin color ever coming into to it.

Sorry. This one's on the parents. Not Trump. Kids have to be taught to be bigots.
you think kids are only taught by (and learn things from) their parents? or that kids always listen to what their parents say? lol

you are such a trump supporting fake liberal ainec
06-08-2017 , 10:40 PM
like, here we have example 168 of lestat coming in to present some terrible argument seeking to absolve donald trump of blame for terrible things that he's said and done, but he'll sit here and claim otherwise for about a dozen more posts
06-08-2017 , 11:10 PM
parents should be held accountable for bad parenting, but it's really really dumb to assert that children only learn racism from their parents and that the president of our country doesn't set an example that children observe and learn from. my parents are lifelong libs/dems and my brother is a racist right wing piece of garbage. yo world's best dad, how do you explain that one?

not to mention, unconscious bias is kind of an evolutionary thing (in b4 you link to national review article claiming that the concept has been de-bunked)

**** you lestat, you're just carrying water for your fat orange hero, as usual
06-08-2017 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
As a father, there is only one source to blame for this and that is the parents.

Kids are naturally non-racist. Put a black, a white, a Latino, and a Pakistani kid in a sandbox and they'll get along just fine. If they do have any problems, they'll work things out without skin color ever coming into to it.

Sorry. This one's on the parents. Not Trump. Kids have to be taught to be bigots.
Even if that were true he still gets blame for normalizing and making these things more common and acceptable.
06-09-2017 , 12:20 AM
just for the record, lestat apparently deleted two posts that my third one is a response to- as you can see, they were too shameful/******ed and littered with personal insults for him to even let them stand
06-09-2017 , 12:33 AM
well he is temp-banned now, so i'm guessing he didn't delete them
06-09-2017 , 12:41 AM
i mean, i didn't report them. i'm totally fine with letting them stay up but i suppose the mods dont want to see a lengthy and pointless back and forth derail and decided to just nip it in the bud

meh, it's not like we haven't seen this routine 167 times already
06-09-2017 , 12:48 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/us/rac...rnd/index.html

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Man goes on racist rant at Starbucks, calls black man a slave

Video of part of the incident shows a white man spitting at a black man, telling him his children are "disposable vermin" and calling a second black man a slave.

The incident started, police say, when William Boucher, a 23-year-old white man wearing a light-colored suit, became angry when someone spilled a beverage on him shortly after 2:30 p.m. Tuesday at a Starbucks on West Lake Street.

The situation spilled onto the sidewalk, where Boucher spat on a man, 30, and woman, 34, police said.

Boucher also punched a 59-year-old man unprovoked, authorities said.
#TrumpsAmerica
06-09-2017 , 01:08 PM
His name is ... Billy Boucher?

An angry amalgam of Adam Sandler roles run amok.
06-09-2017 , 01:18 PM
I would like to body slam Ben Jacobs myself after reading this West Wing bull****.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...608-story.html

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Jacobs accepted Gianforte’s apology and said in a statement he hopes the incident encourages people to have more civil forms of discussion. “I have accepted Mr. Gianforte’s apology and his willingness to take responsibility for his actions and statement,” Jacobs said. “I hope the constructive resolution of this incident reinforces for all the importance of respecting the freedom of the press and the 1st Amendment and encourages more civil and thoughtful discourse in our country.”

As part of a settlement, Jacobs agreed not to sue the 56-year-old Republican and will not object to Gianforte’s no-contest plea to the misdemeanor charged stemming from the May 24 incident. Gianforte said he would donate $50,000 to the Committee to Protect Journalists.
Idiot.
06-09-2017 , 01:58 PM
ya he could def use a 2nd body slam
06-09-2017 , 01:59 PM
Maybe he doesn't care to sue and go through a legal process over something where he was not injured/his glasses were broke, not like the charges are being dropped as a result. Was he British? People from the Commonwealth rarely sue each other over small things. Maybe Gianforte privately asked to buy him a pint and replace his glasses.
06-09-2017 , 04:21 PM
This is USA #1. Sue that man into bankruptcy.
06-09-2017 , 04:29 PM
On second thought it's a shame he didn't take advantage of Montana's Stand Your Ground laws, although a Brit may not be likely to carry a gun.

That's what journalists should start doing. Get a CCW and when one of these right wing nutters wants to start **** assert your God given right to self defense.
06-09-2017 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Has there been a case of a civilized society successfully putting down a fascist uprising? If so, what should we be doing to help?
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Americans are no wiser than the Europeans who saw democracy yield to fascism, Nazism or communism. Our one advantage is that we might learn from their experience. Now is a good time to do so. Here are 20 lessons from across the fearful 20th century, adapted to the circumstances of today.

1. Do not obey in advance. Much of the power of authoritarianism is freely given. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then start to do it without being asked. You’ve already done this, haven’t you? Stop. Anticipatory obedience teaches authorities what is possible and accelerates unfreedom.

2. Defend an institution. Follow the courts or the media, or a court or a newspaper. Do not speak of “our institutions” unless you are making them yours by acting on their behalf. Institutions don’t protect themselves. They go down like dominoes unless each is defended from the beginning.

3. Recall professional ethics. When the leaders of state set a negative example, professional commitments to just practice become much more important. It is hard to break a rule-of-law state without lawyers, and it is hard to have show trials without judges.

4. When listening to politicians, distinguish certain words. Look out for the expansive use of “terrorism” and “extremism.” Be alive to the fatal notions of “exception” and “emergency.” Be angry about the treacherous use of patriotic vocabulary.

5. Be calm when the unthinkable arrives. When the terrorist attack comes, remember that all authoritarians at all times either await or plan such events in order to consolidate power. Think of the Reichstag fire. The sudden disaster that requires the end of the balance of power, the end of opposition parties, and so on, is the oldest trick in the Hitlerian book. Don’t fall for it.

6. Be kind to our language. Avoid pronouncing the phrases everyone else does. Think up your own way of speaking, even if only to convey that thing you think everyone is saying. (Don’t use the Internet before bed. Charge your gadgets away from your bedroom, and read.) What to read? Perhaps The Power of the Powerless by Václav Havel, 1984 by George Orwell, The Captive Mind by Czesław Milosz, The Rebel by Albert Camus, The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt, or Nothing is True and Everything is Possible by Peter Pomerantsev.

7. Stand out. Someone has to. It is easy, in words and deeds, to follow along. It can feel strange to do or say something different. But without that unease, there is no freedom. And the moment you set an example, the spell of the status quo is broken, and others will follow.

8. Believe in truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.

9. Investigate. Figure things out for yourself. Spend more time with long articles. Subsidize investigative journalism by subscribing to print media. Realize that some of what is on your screen is there to harm you. Learn about sites that investigate foreign propaganda pushes.

10. Practice corporeal politics. Power wants your body softening in your chair and your emotions dissipating on the screen. Get outside. Put your body in unfamiliar places with unfamiliar people. Make new friends and march with them.

11. Make eye contact and small talk. This is not just polite. It is a way to stay in touch with your surroundings, break down unnecessary social barriers, and come to understand whom you should and should not trust. If we enter a culture of denunciation, you will want to know the psychological landscape of your daily life.

12. Take responsibility for the face of the world. Notice the swastikas and the other signs of hate. Do not look away and do not get used to them. Remove them yourself and set an example for others to do so.

13. Hinder the one-party state. The parties that took over states were once something else. They exploited a historical moment to make political life impossible for their rivals. Vote in local and state elections while you can.

14. Give regularly to good causes, if you can. Pick a charity and set up autopay. Then you will know that you have made a free choice that is supporting civil society helping others doing something good.

15. Establish a private life. Nastier rulers will use what they know about you to push you around. Scrub your computer of malware. Remember that email is skywriting. Consider using alternative forms of the Internet, or simply using it less. Have personal exchanges in person. For the same reason, resolve any legal trouble. Authoritarianism works as a blackmail state, looking for the hook on which to hang you. Try not to have too many hooks.

16. Learn from others in other countries. Keep up your friendships abroad, or make new friends abroad. The present difficulties here are an element of a general trend. And no country is going to find a solution by itself. Make sure you and your family have passports.

17. Watch out for the paramilitaries. When the men with guns who have always claimed to be against the system start wearing uniforms and marching around with torches and pictures of a Leader, the end is nigh. When the pro-Leader paramilitary and the official police and military intermingle, the game is over.

18. Be reflective if you must be armed. If you carry a weapon in public service, God bless you and keep you. But know that evils of the past involved policemen and soldiers finding themselves, one day, doing irregular things. Be ready to say no. (If you do not know what this means, contact the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and ask about training in professional ethics.)

19. Be as courageous as you can. If none of us is prepared to die for freedom, then all of us will die in unfreedom.

20. Be a patriot. The incoming president is not. Set a good example of what America means for the generations to come. They will need it.
https://eslkevin.wordpress.com/2017/...le-in-the-usa/
06-09-2017 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
I would like to body slam Ben Jacobs myself after reading this West Wing bull****.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...608-story.html



Idiot.
Mother****er.

The correct response is to tell Gianforte to stick his fake ****ing apology up his ass and then sue his billionaire ass for every cent you can.

Mother****er, quit letting these subhuman ****s absolutely own us in these situations. Force them into responsibility for their actions. You don't look like a bigger man accepting his apology, you look like an idiot

      
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