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More details on the attack in Portland tonight. The Proud Boys were attacking a vigil held for Patrick Kimmons, a Black man shot and killed by the police recently.

10-14-2018 , 12:04 AM

#6552

StimAbuser

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Honestly I'm just glad they haven't started shooting yet. Kind of surprised honestly.

10-14-2018 , 01:31 AM

#6553

aarono2690

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I’d be down to **** up some Proud Boys. Anyone else in?

10-14-2018 , 02:07 AM

#6554

OmgGlutten!

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you're just mad they invented the modern world.

10-14-2018 , 02:12 AM

#6555

wiper

still catching up

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sounds like something to be proud of.

10-14-2018 , 02:21 AM

#6556

skydiver8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Trump's blackshirts rioted again in Portland, Oregon tonight. A few things to note about these events:

--These are largely the same individuals, they are traveling freely around the country and they clearly aren't working 2-3 jobs.

--They are targeting big, liberal metropolises. Many times they are targeting big urban areas that have a larger white population like Boston or Portland, but they have also showed up in New York City lately. This may indicate that they are becoming more bold.

--They are usually friendly with cops before, during, and after the events.

--They like to use vehicles as a weapon. In Charlottesville this proved incredibly effective, and they have learned that by using a vehicle, they can usually avoid getting charged with a crime unless someone is murdered.

My husband thinks I'm being silly when I mention wanting to buy a couple of guns. I show him this.

Maybe I'm a little paranoid, but I feeling it's time to start slowly building an arsenal for the moment when we have to pack up our RV and run into the hills to get away from the gestapo. We're both veterans, we know how to use them.

I've made no effort to hide my left-wing sensibilities, my neighbors all see my yard signs for democrats. I'm all for gun control, but for now, might as well exercise my NRA-given right to accumulate a variety of weapons. The right wingers aren't gonna be the ones needing protection from the government...we are.

10-14-2018 , 08:28 AM

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zikzak

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Well, I suppose that's a good idea if you want to give the police a reason to kill you.

10-14-2018 , 08:47 AM

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TeflonDawg

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It's like America wants American History X in real life.

Do they not remember how that movie ends?

Men and their propensity for violence, and arrogance in assumption that violence will not break them, but be worth the pool of blood. ****ing stupid.

It's always men. Nationally and internationally, death and destruction by testosterone. I'm really starting to believe it essential to vote only for women in elections.

10-14-2018 , 11:10 AM

#6559

einbert

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skydiver8

Be safe first and foremost. If you get a weapon, be super discreet about it. As others have mentioned, that can be a reason for state agents to do harm to you.

Everyone needs to get some basic security training. There are cops and feds infilitrating organizations that seem super innocuous to us like the DSA or Black Lives Matter. You need to be very careful about these kinds of people in your org and at the same time we need to be willing to connect with other people through grassroots organizations.

Often times cops will be the ones to try to provoke a violent outburst at the corporations or state or right wing agitators, and they will do this to naive newcomers to organizing. Be aware of these cops and don't go for weird adventurism that can get you and your comrades killed or in deep trouble.

Learning how to defend yourself and your communities is going to be critical. I believe we will have a responsibility soon to defend our marginalized friends and neighbors. In fact we already do. Whatever you decide to use, martial arts, physical fitness, firearms training, make sure to get good solid training and practice while you still can. I wouldn't be surprised if a real Left movement is the one thing that could convince Republicans to enact widespread gun control legislation in the future.

10-14-2018 , 01:27 PM

#6560

NhlNut

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Black people owning guns is the only thing that has ever influenced the Right to promote gun control

10-14-2018 , 01:41 PM

#6561

suzzer99

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I think the NRA would love it if that happened again as it would just mean 10x more sales to white idiots.

10-14-2018 , 08:34 PM

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1st black woman legislator in Vermont resigns after white supremacists threaten safety of her family

https://womenintheworld.com/2018/10/...of-her-family/

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Kiah Morris, the first black woman to ever serve in Vermont’s state legislature, is speaking out about her decision to resign in late September after facing repeated harassment — including acts of intimidation at her home that forced her and her husband, who was recovering from heart surgery, to flee to a different town. Morris, who was first elected in 2014 and won re-election in 2016, announced that she wouldn’t seek reelection this year — despite running unopposed — after facing vandalism, death threats that were seen by her young son, and a break-in to her home while her family was present. Despite her declaring her intent to leave office, intimidation from angry youths who would pound on her house’s windows and doors at night continued until she and her husband, who was recovering from heart surgery, were forced to flee her home in Bennington and move to another town.

10-14-2018 , 08:51 PM

#6563

einbert

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This is how the "paper of record" the new york times characterized the far right riots from Friday night:

Fight Breaks Out Near Republican Club After Visit by Gavin McInnes, Police Say

10-15-2018 , 02:58 PM

#6564

Huehuecoyotl

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A black man arrived at the entrance to the building where he lives in St. Louis late Friday night only to find himself blocked by a white neighbor who demanded proof he lived there.

“Please move, ma’am,” the man, D’Arreion Toles, says in a video he recorded of the encounter, which shows the woman with her dog on a leash standing in the doorway at the condominium complex, the Elder Shirt Lofts.

“I can,” she responds. “Do you live here?”

“I’ve already answered that question,” Mr. Toles, 24, replies as he continues to try to get in. “Excuse me.”

But the woman, Hilary Brooke Mueller, refused to move as she continued to ask Mr. Toles what unit he lived in and to see his key fob. When he declined to tell her, she remained in his path.

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In one of the videos, Mr. Toles is in an elevator and Ms. Mueller follows him. He says, “So now you’re going to follow me?”

“I am,” she replies.

In another video, she trails him in a hallway, saying she wants to introduce herself because he is a neighbor.

“I do not want to speak with you,” he says. “Please stop following me. I’m going to call the cops for harassment. That’s my next step.”

The last video shows Ms. Mueller outside his unit, with Mr. Toles standing in the doorway. “You just followed me all the way to my door,” he says. “And you see my keys in the door.”

“As a record I just want to say, ‘Hi, what is your name?’” she begins to say before Mr. Toles cuts her off.

“Ma’am — you just — no. Have a good night, ma’am,” he says. “Don’t ever do that again.”

Quote:

Mr. Toles said on Sunday that about 30 minutes after he got into his unit, a police officer knocked on his door and told him that Ms. Mueller felt “uncomfortable” about Mr. Toles being there. He said he told the officer that he was renting the unit and that he had shown Ms. Mueller his key fob.

Maaaan... A woman confronts a guy asking if he lives in the apartment complex, follows him all the way to his apartment... AND THEN calls the cops on the guy because he made her feel uncomfortable? Jesus

On a side note:

Quote:

Brandon Mueller, Ms. Mueller’s estranged husband, said in an interview on Sunday that he was shocked to learn about the encounter after he got messages and notifications on Facebook.

On Facebook, Mr. Mueller, who has a black father and white mother, posted a video in which he said he was disappointed about what happened. He said he had been separated from Ms. Mueller for more than a year and had not lived in the Elder Shirt Lofts building for just as long.

He said that he did not condone Ms. Mueller’s actions and that he had sent a Facebook message to Mr. Toles to show support. Mr. Mueller said Mr. Toles handled the situation in an “exceptional manner.”

The woman's ex was biracial. Damn.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/u...-st-louis.html

10-15-2018 , 03:00 PM

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Mr. Mueller said Mr. Toles handled the situation in an “exceptional manner.”

...as he has to, in order to not get shot when this moron ****ing lady calls the cops for no ****ing reason

10-15-2018 , 03:43 PM

#6566

Johnny Truant

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

...as he has to, in order to reduce likelihood 50% to get shot when this moron ****ing lady calls the cops for no ****ing reason

FYP.

10-15-2018 , 05:25 PM

#6567

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Idaho resident of 25 years, deported to Mexico leaving his American wife and four children behind, found dead in California desert trying to get back to his family

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As the spouse of a United States citizen, Mr. Luna could have been entitled to a green card, but complicating his case was the fact that he had been deported in 1992, and had illegally entered the country again. At what they had expected would be a routine appointment at ICE one day in August 2017, one of the officials told Mr. Luna that his time was up. Mr. Luna protested that he had been tricked years ago into signing the previous deportation order.

The official cut him off. “You entered the country illegally, O.K.?” he told Mr. Luna, as shown in the video of the encounter. “Don’t you try to fool me.”

10-15-2018 , 05:45 PM

#6568

Johnny Truant

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Sure, but on the other hand, Awval got one month of free cable coming to him on his refund.

10-15-2018 , 06:53 PM

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Trolly McTrollson

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Good job, internet:

10-15-2018 , 08:20 PM

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wheatrich

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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/09/65588...ttack-gao-says

Putting a bunch of old people in charge of new technology has led to all our billions of dollars of weapons being hackable by the default passwords, guessing password, etc.

10-15-2018 , 11:32 PM

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synth_floyd

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Another Vice Luntz focus group, half Beto supporters and half Cruz supporters.

The funniest one is the Mexican guy whose parents illegally immigrated to the US and yet he is still for a border wall and cutting off immigration.

10-15-2018 , 11:34 PM

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dth123451

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If I’ve learned anything during this horror show it’s to stop reading NYT safari pieces and stop watching those focus group clips.

10-16-2018 , 12:00 AM

#6573

cuserounder

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

LOL... "Give me one word or phrase to describe Ted Cruz."

One woman said douchebag, a lot were related to his being unlikable. The last guy goes, "Christian!" and you can hear someone snickering, which made me literally laugh out loud.. Then the guy immediately gives his one word to describe Beto, "Abortion!"

10-16-2018 , 12:11 AM

#6574

SuperUberBob

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Those safari pieces and focus groups depress the **** out of me. How can people so stupid exist in this world? I know children smarter than some of those people.