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11-10-2016 , 08:21 AM
Actually ISIS being defeated swiftly may happen, but it wont be because of any change in strategy. It will be because they were getting crushed anyway.
11-10-2016 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
He will give the green light to law enforcement to commit atrocities everywhere civil unrest exists. If he's not immediately removed from office, the world ends in nuclear holocaust.
If he is not immediately removed from office, then you would not need to worry about him getting re-elected in your scenario. See, there always is a positive side to dramatic hyperbole.
11-10-2016 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Is there a compelling half-full case to be made? Or even quarter full? Hell, I'd settle for damp.
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not even 100% sure he'll be worse than Bush Jr.
11-10-2016 , 09:35 AM
Pence gonna go all in on removing laws protecting gays and trans people. Obamacare repealed means fewer people having access to healthcare.

Rip up iran deal means iran is free to proceed with their nuclear developement, then a war gets increasingly more likely since that wont be accepted. Throwing away the work against climate change is a disaster on a whole lot of levels, in short things will get very bad. Removing regulations (70-80% of all regulations according to trump) will let companies go crazy and it will remove power from the little man.

Huge tax cuts will create loads of more inequality, the rich get richer. Equality is a glue in society, its getting weakened.

His temperament alone can cause dangerous military situations, economic conflics, and this dirtbag can even end the planet with a nuclear war since his brain just doesnt work like a normal persons brain, hes erratic and bizzare on many levels.

Dreamers from south america gets thrown out with brutality, families split, people end up in hopeless situations setting them up for abuse. Abortion becomes to a large degree illegal with all the social problems it brings with it.

People that are religious fundamentalists are empowered, trumps ******ed dirtbag values will trickle down to empower more wrong people, legitimizing coarse behaviour towards e.g females.

Nato gets disempowered, giving russia opportunities to annex neighbours or perform hostile no flag operations.

Gouvernment should be helping minorities and people that have fallen behind, because it could be you. One day you could be the victim of a companies actions or you somehow end up belonging to some minority that experience discrimination.
11-10-2016 , 09:37 AM
John Bolton as SOS? Yipes.
11-10-2016 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not even 100% sure he'll be worse than Bush Jr.
Based on what? We know what he has said. We know what he has done. We know his entire life history. We know what the makeup of Congress is going to be. We know who is going to be in his cabinet. We know what all those people have said and done. We know who his supporters are. We know what they think.

It's staring us right in the face. How can you not see it? There is not one single part of our elected government standing in the way of Trump doing his worst except some wishful thinking underpants gnome theory.
11-10-2016 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Zero2Hero13
Not going through thread to see if this was said but, if you set the o/u at 2.1 yrs that he actually serves, I take the under. Don't think he really thought he'd get this far. He will get some "health issue " and will step down. Cant see him grinding out a 4 year session of this

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This is a horrible horrible take and just as bad as the oft repeated "Trump will drop out before the election, he doesn't want to be president" takes we saw for most of the last year. You are talking about a guy who killed himself campaigning for 16 months 24/7 and risked probably his entire business empire (since almost his entire ability to generate income is based on his brand). He also put up with more abuse from the media and pundits than any person in recent history. He isn't just going to walk away from this after reaching the ultimate goal. Regardless of what you think of him he worked hard and risked a lot to get here.
11-10-2016 , 09:59 AM
With bush jr's economic policies back in effect. How long will it take for economy to crash again. it took about 6 last time. i'm guessing we are not as strong now. 3 years ? 2 years?
11-10-2016 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
John Bolton as SOS? Yipes.
Oh Jesus Christ
11-10-2016 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Oh Jesus Christ
His name showed up on some cable news possibility list along with a couple other horrifying choices and Richard Haas. I am not knowledgeable enough to pass judgment on Haas but at least he is an actual diplomat.
11-10-2016 , 10:45 AM
You guys realize that Trump winning this election completes a major transformation of what the different parties stand for right?

Before Trump:

Republican power groups: Religious social conservatives, Various Business Interests that are very pro trade and libertarian, Dixiecrats (admittedly a lot of overlap between the social conservatives and dixiecrats but it's far from 100%).

Democratic power groups: Liberals from NY/CA/MA/IL, Unions, Minorities.

Clearly the Republicans just picked up the union vote. This isn't super surprising given that the democrats have been actively ignoring/****ting on the typical moderate midwestern voter since 1992. Here's the interesting thing though- to pick up the union vote Donald Trump went VERY anti trade and very big government. This breaks him off from the people who traditionally paid for the Republican party... the libertarians.

Given that he won without conceding almost anything to the actual Republican party and he used none of the libertarian business people's money I think we're seeing a major shift in what it means to be a Republican or Democrat. I have no idea how it's going to shake out, but it's pretty safe to say that it's gonna get weird as ****.
11-10-2016 , 10:47 AM
In none of the topics running have the pro-Trump derpers come up with absolutely besides "lol liberals" "y'all mad" "the butthurt is so great"... do you guys actually want the wall? do you want muslims banned? do you want lower taxes for the super wealthy and corporations?

you are coming off like a pack of foaming at the mouth wolfs chanting TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

pretty scary to be honest. the republican have a majority of all houses and no one is even in here saying stuff like:

"Finally school vouchers! We waited so long"

or

"Now the sanctity of marriage might be upheld"

or

"Now we can roll back the legalization of weed from the federal level"

It is as though you have no political opinion and are just hoping there will be blood.
11-10-2016 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BoredSocial
You guys realize that Trump winning this election completes a major transformation of what the different parties stand for right?

Before Trump:

Republican power groups: Religious social conservatives, Various Business Interests that are very pro trade and libertarian, Dixiecrats (admittedly a lot of overlap between the social conservatives and dixiecrats but it's far from 100%).

Democratic power groups: Liberals from NY/CA/MA/IL, Unions, Minorities.

Clearly the Republicans just picked up the union vote. This isn't super surprising given that the democrats have been actively ignoring/****ting on the typical moderate midwestern voter since 1992. Here's the interesting thing though- to pick up the union vote Donald Trump went VERY anti trade and very big government. This breaks him off from the people who traditionally paid for the Republican party... the libertarians.
Daddy is going to have to start feeding the children. He promised factory jobs. We know they will never come back. That means that he needs a scapegoat for why they won't come back. We would have them back if it were not for: "...........".
11-10-2016 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BoredSocial
You guys realize that Trump winning this election completes a major transformation of what the different parties stand for right?

Before Trump:

Republican power groups: Religious social conservatives, Various Business Interests that are very pro trade and libertarian, Dixiecrats (admittedly a lot of overlap between the social conservatives and dixiecrats but it's far from 100%).

Democratic power groups: Liberals from NY/CA/MA/IL, Unions, Minorities.

Clearly the Republicans just picked up the union vote. This isn't super surprising given that the democrats have been actively ignoring/****ting on the typical moderate midwestern voter since 1992. Here's the interesting thing though- to pick up the union vote Donald Trump went VERY anti trade and very big government. This breaks him off from the people who traditionally paid for the Republican party... the libertarians.

Given that he won without conceding almost anything to the actual Republican party and he used none of the libertarian business people's money I think we're seeing a major shift in what it means to be a Republican or Democrat. I have no idea how it's going to shake out, but it's pretty safe to say that it's gonna get weird as ****.
Agree. He will probably name a conservative judge to SCOTUS but that's about all he owes the old GOP. Paul Ryan better get on board for the incoming spending spree or he will be replaced.
11-10-2016 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Agree. He will probably name a conservative judge to SCOTUS but that's about all he owes the old GOP. Paul Ryan better get on board for the incoming spending spree or he will be replaced.
Not even sure he owes them that. I think the current political meta as of 11/7/2016 is over. Trump won by changing the game and running as something that was neither Democrat or Republican.

I doubt we're going to hear much at all about abortion, guns, or gays in the next 4 years.
11-10-2016 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BoredSocial
Not even sure he owes them that. I think the current political meta as of 11/7/2016 is over. Trump won by changing the game and running as something that was neither Democrat or Republican.

I doubt we're going to hear much at all about abortion, guns, or gays in the next 4 years.
Agree, he is no social conservative just think he needs to throw a bone to that voting block and to Pence for his loyalty. I could happily be wrong.
11-10-2016 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BoredSocial
Not even sure he owes them that. I think the current political meta as of 11/7/2016 is over. Trump won by changing the game and running as something that was neither Democrat or Republican.

I doubt we're going to hear much at all about abortion, guns, or gays in the next 4 years.
Congress is controlled by people that in large part have been elected by people that oppose abortion and lgbt rights and want to restrict or roll them back. Do you have some plausible reason why Congress won't be sending bills to Trump's desk that hurt lgbtq and abortion rights?
11-10-2016 , 12:05 PM
He'll be extremely powerful with his party controlling congress and having electoral mandate.
Good economic data continues throughout his term. Mostly because our economy is already improving since financial crisis. Taxes decrease and business regulations curtailed.
Domestic markets perform okay and interest rates slowly rise.
He fills his administration with his inner campaign circle (Rudy G for AG, Conway for CoS, Newt for SoS, etc.) and also various financial businessmen looking for a pre-retirement job.
He spends yuge on the military and actually disrupts the organization of terror groups.
Racial tensions in America are exacerbated giving rise to Cory Booker, Joaquín Castro, and Tulsi Gabbard in democratic party. Non-politically associated famous people on the democratic side consider getting involved as a liberal populist after seeing success of Trump.
Gun control decreases.
Obamacare is repealed and replaced with essentially nothing.
Abortion laws stay the same.
Wall gets builts, but immigration reform resembles more of Rubio's ideas.
Tax cuts and spending increases causes more deficits.
Trump gets along with Putin, May, Merkel, but not many others.
Trump Jr. becomes some sort of politician.
No additional jobs actually make it to the Rust Belt.
11-10-2016 , 12:06 PM
Impeachment. I don't think he make it through one term.
11-10-2016 , 12:07 PM
Lol he has Pence as VP. Pence would neve be there if he wasnt allowed to attack gays and trans people. Thats his wet dream. Pence doesnt come along for this crapshow unless he gets something in return.
11-10-2016 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
Lol he has Pence as VP. Pence would neve be there if he wasnt allowed to attack gays and trans people. Thats his wet dream. Pence doesnt come along for this crapshow unless he gets something in return.
Politicians mostly get off on having a title, the things they do are mostly ways to keep using that title. Basically they're rarely there to do something but to be somebody.

What Pence gets in return for "coming along with the crapshow" is being able to say to himself that he's the VP
11-10-2016 , 12:15 PM
Let me get this straight. He's distancing himself by letting his children run the Trump empire? Surely, he won't be distracted with that.
11-10-2016 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wotton
Politicians mostly get off on having a title, the things they do are mostly ways to keep using that title. Basically they're rarely there to do something but to be somebody.

What Pence gets in return for "coming along with the crapshow" is being able to say to himself that he's the VP
No he gets more than that. But if you want to oversimplify the world to the extreme then have at it.
11-10-2016 , 12:35 PM
Grunching but what happens to Trumps real plan this whole time, Trump tv? Does it just get pushed back until he's out of office, does it get forgotten, or do we get straight up state run propaganda media?
11-10-2016 , 12:38 PM
Trump has been a liberal all his life and his far more liberal than almost any other conservative that would have run. Give the guy a chance. Instead you have people out there protesting, assaulting Trump supporters, and burning the American flag chanting *** Trump!

      
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