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Old 02-05-2018, 10:58 PM   #201
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Re: Is the Trump Economy Good for Poker?

i mean if a guy at my poker table is choking i'll take a short break to give him the heimlich. but i can't do nothing about no heart attack. if i was carrying nitro i would give him a couple but idk why i would have those.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:59 PM   #202
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I don't know what tables Beale plays at but all the times I've played live people mostly were pleasant or didn't talk that much lol
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:00 PM   #203
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At most people, including myself, would try to rattle one another without being mean.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:09 PM   #204
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i don't understand what the players should be doing. do you need to immediately say 25 hail marys or something? if someone dies near you? why couldn't they keep playing?
I suppose that you've never seen it happen. The medics show up and they need room so the chairs get pushed out of the way and they start their examination before hauling the person onto the gurney. Depending on location TWO games might stop. Most of the players are stuck and there's only ONE thing that they want: The next hand. They might not admit it but watch how pissed off they get when someone looking at his device takes 10 seconds extra to act. Now make that a half-hour.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:09 PM   #205
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lol never had the pleasure
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:11 PM   #206
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Live poker sounds like so much fun, and by fun I mean AIDS.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:16 PM   #207
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*politely asks heart attack vic to not splash the pot*
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:17 PM   #208
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How was it pre packaged Howard? People cited studies relevant to the points Mason was making and his own posts, both of which destroyed his arguments. You can't just be mad people are using facts against Trump, that's not how this works even if you wish it did.

The grumpiest poker players in any poker room are clones of Howard. Old, delusional and hate the world and the facts that are inconvenient to their narrative. Mad when their big hands get cracked and when the young kids are raising too often.
Regarding the first part you are right when it comes to studies/facts and reason based counter-argument and I perhaps should've taken more time to think it over and mention that. But there's also various predictable derogatory/ personal remarks that a woeful number of posters feel compelled to make.

As to the second part: Bad read. I'm very outgoing and hilarious. I have a high opinion of myself. I know what's going on as if I can read people's minds and I am a very stable genius.

You'd like me in person for sure.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:18 PM   #209
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i've heard stories of guys at the backjack table blowing their brains out. honestly if i was sat next to a guy that did that i would pocket my chips and walk to another table. or probably go home, i think that's a sign to go home plus i don't play blackjack. but what do you think i should do? should i stay and pray over the body? it sounds normal to not want to deal with other people dying around you. sorry i'm not mother theresa, howard. SORRY
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:21 PM   #210
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The principle that I support is that there should be some thought rather than an outpouring of pre-packaged outrage each time a person's political/social beliefs are offended. Take the proposition apart, they needn't be married. 'I'd like some money but I still hate Trump' is good enough. Instead we get the usual that this forum dishes up. Much of the replies itt are not to the point. What's Mason's decision not to become an affiliate got to do w/ anything except to make him appear a fool thereby dismissing any argument he puts forth? That's the default for most of the posters in politics.

And if you think that almost all of the players at the table aren't ticked off that their game is going to be delayed a long time while the medics are there, and aren't running to the board to try to get into a running game, heart attack person be damned, you're thinking wrong.
You're ignoring the numerous good points made against Mason's article and focusing on the derails. In doing so, you're turning this into another derail.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:25 PM   #211
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lol never had the pleasure
You should see what happens at Talking Stick if a single.drop.of.blood hits the rail: Everything stops and someone from housekeeping dressed in a semi-hazmat suit w/ rubber glove scrubs away w/ terrible to the smell obv special blood killing chemical plus the medic to apply bandages to the bleeder. And does the bleeder ever leave the game? No, he does not leave the game and all he wants is one thing and that is the next hand.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:25 PM   #212
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:28 PM   #213
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i've heard stories of guys at the backjack table blowing their brains out. honestly if i was sat next to a guy that did that i would pocket my chips and walk to another table. or probably go home, i think that's a sign to go home plus i don't play blackjack. but what do you think i should do? should i stay and pray over the body? it sounds normal to not want to deal with other people dying around you. sorry i'm not mother theresa, howard. SORRY
YOU should show the affected person your collection of avatars. That'd perk up most of the men and some of the women. I might as well tell you that I never skip by a post of yours. I always take a peek.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:32 PM   #214
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You're ignoring the numerous good points made against Mason's article and focusing on the derails. In doing so, you're turning this into another derail.
Yeah, but a more fun derail. You ppl are pretty much done w/ Mason anyway, let's turn this into a discussion of whether or not poker players are scummy at least when they're at the table and what to do if the player next to you keels over.

Which amongst you is up for mouth-to-mouth w/ the 75 y.o. man w/ 6 teeth?
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:38 PM   #215
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Pretty sure current guidelines say to just do compressions, no mouth to mouth, so we're off the hook
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:59 PM   #216
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Pretty sure current guidelines say to just do compressions, no mouth to mouth, so we're off the hook
Good, bec I would've been in a tough spot as was Tonto:

The Lone Ranger and Tonto were camped out when The Lone Ranger went to relieve himself in the woods and got bit by a rattler on the tip of his penis. He came running back to camp:

'Tonto, Tonto, I got bit by a rattler on the tip of my penis!'
'We go town Lone Ranger see medicine man.'
'I'm took weak to ride. You gallop into town and ask the doc what to do.'

Tonto see medicine man and ask what to do. 'You have to suck out the poison, chief. Suck out the poison.'

Tonto return to Lone Ranger. Lone Ranger asks what's going to happen. Tonto say 'medicine man say you going die.'
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:07 AM   #217
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It turned out that sucking poison out doesn’t help a snakebite
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:17 AM   #218
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How was it pre packaged Howard? People cited studies relevant to the points Mason was making and his own posts, both of which destroyed his arguments. You can't just be mad people are using facts against Trump, that's not how this works even if you wish it did.

The grumpiest poker players in any poker room are clones of Howard. Old, delusional and hate the world and the facts that are inconvenient to their narrative. Mad when their big hands get cracked and when the young kids are raising too often.
You used Facts against Mason and Trump.

It's not very effective...
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:21 AM   #219
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The problem with this idea is that there's a great deal of empirical evidence that it's not true given current marginal tax rates. The Bush tax cuts, for example, were clearly not self-financing in this way even prior to the crash. Laffer gets a lot of hate but even he recognized it was a curve, not an absolute truth.
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But unlike most high schools, Wagoner is closed on Mondays. The reason, a severe reduction in state funds, has pushed 90 other school districts in Oklahoma to do the same. Teacher pay is the third-lowest in the country and has triggered a statewide shortage, as teachers flee to neighbouring states like Arkansas and Texas or to private schools. “Most of our teachers work second jobs,” says Darlene Adair, Wagoner’s principal. “A lot of them work at Walmart on nights and weekends, or in local restaurants.” Ms Adair hopes that Walmart does not offer her teachers a full-time job, which would be a pay rise for many.

The roots of the fiasco are not hard to determine. As in Oklahoma’s northern neighbour, Kansas, deep tax cuts have wrecked the state’s finances.During the shale boom, lawmakers gave a sweetheart deal to its oilmen, costing $470m in a single year, by slashing the gross production tax on horizontal drilling from 7% to 1%. North Dakota, by contrast, taxes production at 11.5%. The crash in global oil prices in 2014 did not help state coffers either. Oklahoma has also cut income taxes, first under Democrats desperate to maintain control over a state that was trending Republican, and then under Republicans, who swept to power anyway. Mary Fallin, the Republican governor, came to office pledging to eliminate the income tax altogether. Since 2008 general state funds for K-12 education in Oklahoma have been slashed by 28.2%—the biggest cut in the country. Property taxes, which might have made up the difference, are constitutionally limited.

Other state agencies are broke, too. Highway patrolmen are told not to fill their petrol tanks to save money. Those caught drunk-driving are able to keep their licences because there are no bureaucrats to revoke them. Prisons are dangerously overcrowded, to the point that the state’s director of corrections publicly says that “something is going to pop”.
https://www.economist.com/news/unite...k-whats-matter
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:28 AM   #220
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Mason, you're hard wired for trickle down, it's all theory/guesswork after all, fair enough. As such it's quite easy to be in denial as to the extent Republicans hurt all poker players with the surreptitious UIGEA process.

Your Republican Trickle-Down team has Sheldon Adelson as captain. You should know this, they regularly pay fealty in Vegas during election season, and are rewarded to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. And together they continually strive to financially harm you, your family, and your charity to enrich themselves(congressman by keeping their jobs, and Sheldon by keeping out the competition). How about spending time opining in your magazine about the scumbags in charge actively hurting your readers for their own personal gain; maybe rethinking your predilictions that gave you this lousy article idea and not soliciting musings from your readers on the wonders of Trump for poker.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:49 AM   #221
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Why do you constantly say things which aren't true? It's okay to have a different point of view, but it's not okay to make up false facts.

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Old 02-06-2018, 01:26 AM   #222
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This thread is hilarious. A group of poker players, who proudly claim that they'd try to bust their own mother, who will lie to the bad players, who will manipulate and employ what would be considered terrible behavior in any other field are outraged, OUTRAGED! that someone comes along and says 'more money in circulation = better games', which is true, bec he's added something about thinking over their hatred of Trump. And it won't matter that I hate Trump myself bec most of you ppl can't stand that last part of Mason's OP and off the thread goes into Mason bashing.

Mason: It's a mistake to bring this sort of thing to the politics sub-forum. Give up on this place. I appreciate it that you haven't nuked this ridiculous sub-forum but it's mostly aids. Give this joint up, stay away, imo.
It's grandmother, and this is you in a thread titled "If your own grandma was on the felt across from you?"

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The only person that I soft play is my late '80's uncle who visits once/yr. I take him for a couple of hours of 3-6 lhe and dinner at Casino Arizona. Everybody else I play hard and don't worry about it. Poker has a dark side and trying to take everyone's money is part of it. If you have qualms you'd best get rid of them.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:12 AM   #223
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Howard, there is more money for the 1%. The people who don't need money. I won't put words in Mason's mouth, but I would venture he is against a living minimum wage.
But what if I start a business and invest all my money into it (as I did). Are you saying that I should be guaranteed success? And if I wasn't successful my personal results would have been below minimum wage.

As for my personal opinion on a minimum wage, Milton Friedman did propose a negative income tax, and it's my opinion that would be a better approach.

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We're aware you're a huge Trump deplorable. You can refute any fact posted itt, especially the laffer curve. Please, attempt to do so.
Do you always insult people who have a different point of view from you?

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Old 02-06-2018, 02:16 AM   #224
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It's grandmother, and this is you in a thread titled "If your own grandma was on the felt across from you?"
I was being honest. Some of these others aren't.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:18 AM   #225
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Mason, you're hard wired for trickle down, it's all theory/guesswork after all, fair enough. As such it's quite easy to be in denial as to the extent Republicans hurt all poker players with the surreptitious UIGEA process.

Your Republican Trickle-Down team has Sheldon Adelson as captain. You should know this, they regularly pay fealty in Vegas during election season, and are rewarded to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. And together they continually strive to financially harm you, your family, and your charity to enrich themselves(congressman by keeping their jobs, and Sheldon by keeping out the competition). How about spending time opining in your magazine about the scumbags in charge actively hurting your readers for their own personal gain; maybe rethinking your predilictions that gave you this lousy article idea and not soliciting musings from your readers on the wonders of Trump for poker.
Actually I'm not wired for trickle down at all and question whether it even exists. But what does in my opinion clearly exist is "pull up."

As a specific example, one of the reasons I was able to start a successful publishing company over 30 years ago was the fact that there were computer programs like Microsoft Word and Word Perfect which allowed me to do certain types of work which only a few years earlier I wouldn't have been able to afford. So were these programs part of the trickle down process or did they allow myself at a relatively small expense to pull up.

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