Is the Trump Economy Good for Poker? - Page 32 - Politics and Economics

Mason, it seems like you conveniently missed this point Jake was making so I'll bump it:

These are respected PhD economists from some of the top academic institutions. Here is the germane question they responded to:

0% Strongly Agree
0% Agree
8% Uncertain
33% Disagree
38% Strongly Disagree
5% No Opinion

Now, we can partition this even further and just look at what the people from the institution of Mr. Milton Friedman himself had to say.

Name	University	Vote	Confidence	Comment
Katherine Baicker	Chicago	Strongly Disagree	6
Marianne Bertrans	Chicago	Uncertain	3
Austan Goolsbee	Chicago	Strongly Disagree	10	Moon landing was real. Evolution exists. Tax cuts lose revenue. The reasearch has shown this a thousand times. Enough already.
Michael Greenstone	Chicago	Strongly Disagree	7	All evidence that I'm aware of suggest that cutting tax rates "marginally" from their current levels would DECREASE revenues, even 5 yrs out
Anil Kashyap	Chicago	Disagree	7	May look plausible on a cocktail napkin (or at a cocktail party), but not true empirically in the US.
Nancy Stokey	Chicago	Disagree	7	Are we thinking of Japan as a model for this kind of "fiscal stimulus"?
Richard Thaler	Chicago	Strongly Disagree	8	That's a Laffer!
Luigo Zingales	Chicago	Disagree	6

So, again, we're all wondering why we should value your unlettered opinion--in a discipline for which you have no training or qualifications--over the opinions of the leading experts in the field. Your opinion is diametrically incongruent with the field of economics, so it requires extraordinary empirical evidence far beyond something just "making sense" to you in order to make your case. Is it your belief that these experts are simply mistaken?

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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth

And the Trump advisors are talking about ten years, not five.

MM

#330 for context

Quote:

Originally Posted by watevs

Also still waiting for one mention of Sheldon Adelson and how his large presence in the Republican party is good for internet poker, or poker in general

I mean two years ago you're tweeting Rich's action plan that mentions big Shelds, how do you feel about him two years later?

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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth

The above tweet never happened and is completely made up by you. Enjoy your vacation.

Mason

08-09-2018 , 04:29 PM

#778

Namath12

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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

Posts #772 and #775 are pretty bad for not quoting the posts they reference.

hahaha!

08-09-2018 , 09:06 PM

#779

wheatrich

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I remember mason fired a few people and in his OP right after that snap blamed Obama for it. Yeah, that's why people aren't buying poker books anymore instead of say--you can go on youtube and get at least the same info for free and updated.

I don't know his reasoning--either the republican part of the cult (ie triggering the libs) or simply a narcissist who loves to push buttons (the type where you give an inch they take a mile), but he's consistent in trying to bash Obama for everything he does even in NVG, even for no reason other his personal spite but it's not a politics forum which means what it always means for right wingers--rules for thee but not for me. Or maybe just libertarian, but those dudes keep parroting Russian talking points these days at least the online places that cater to them (while trying sell suckers financial newsletters).

I will give him some credit over the avg right winger--he does tend to respond to critics at least without the usual counter argument of one of the following--something a 5 year old would come back with, going to I'm better than you because (insert thing nobody gives a **** about but that person)/personal attacks (at least that I'm aware of).

That tweet still exists btw.

The worst is simply just ignoring what people here have explained to him wrt UIGEA but he knows and it's some other reason he's decided to blame Obama for everything. It's a shame. Like many of you my poker career got started because I bought a 2p2 book back in the era that's all you needed to crush the games.

You can be pro republican without denying facts. Why mason chooses otherwise only he can explain.

Last edited by wheatrich; 08-09-2018 at 09:13 PM.

08-09-2018 , 09:11 PM

#780

ScreaminAsian

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i love that his substantive response to, "how can you support a president who is directly personally lobbied by sheldon adelson?" is to just be like, "****in ban this guy"

08-09-2018 , 09:27 PM

#781

Victor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

I remember mason fired a few people and in his OP right after that snap blamed Obama for it. Yeah, that's why people aren't buying poker books anymore instead of say--you can go on youtube and get at least the same info for free and updated.

I don't know his reasoning--either the republican part of the cult (ie triggering the libs) or simply a narcissist who loves to push buttons (the type where you give an inch they take a mile), but he's consistent in trying to bash Obama for everything he does even in NVG, even for no reason other his personal spite but it's not a politics forum which means what it always means for right wingers--rules for thee but not for me. Or maybe just libertarian, but those dudes keep parroting Russian talking points these days at least the online places that cater to them (while trying sell suckers financial newsletters).

I will give him some credit over the avg right winger--he does tend to respond to critics at least without the usual counter argument of one of the following--something a 5 year old would come back with, going to I'm better than you because (insert thing nobody gives a **** about but that person)/personal attacks (at least that I'm aware of).

That tweet still exists btw.

The worst is simply just ignoring what people here have explained to him wrt UIGEA but he knows and it's some other reason he's decided to blame Obama for everything. It's a shame. Like many of you my poker career got started because I bought a 2p2 book back in the era that's all you needed to crush the games.

You can be pro republican without denying facts. Why mason chooses otherwise only he can explain.

that was a truly amazing thread. he claimed he was forced to fire ppl bc obama instituted a 2% tax on all income above 250k. just straight up blank stare at how somehow that causes you to let go of an employee that presumably is providing value. its just, like, umm, gawd I just have no idea how that works out.

08-09-2018 , 10:38 PM

#782

kickabuck

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The U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem and Trump's trickle down tax cut gets Mason's amygdala all hot and bothered. His logic-free 'Trump economy good for poker' embarrassment was Exhibit A.

Last edited by kickabuck; 08-09-2018 at 10:48 PM.

08-09-2018 , 11:55 PM

#783

Lawnmower Man

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Feel like thats semantikesing. There are people in the world, call them what you will, who believe that any given problem can be solved via the meticulous application of Logic. Of course this Logic has a tendency to lead to whatever they wanted to believe in the first place, but the underlying belief in the universal efficacy of Logic is sincerely held.

Edit: And I know these people exist because I used to be one of them. I was never fully a member of the cult, but flirted with it.

This is Austrian economics to a T, of course, with Walter Block perhaps being the best example of the lunacy it can lead to.

08-10-2018 , 11:27 AM

#784

Namath12

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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

Ive been on 2+2 since 2013 and had no idea there was a pokercast, but i wouldn't have listened anyways.

Been here since '11 and found out literally yesterday that there's an official and actively-run 2+2 Twitter account

https://twitter.com/twoplustwoforum

08-10-2018 , 05:25 PM

#785

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Real wage growth year over year dips into the negative, following a Labor Department report that inflation outpaced wage growth for the last year. Hey guys, do we think this is going to bring the Pokercast back?!

08-23-2018 , 11:14 AM

#786

dth123451

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National debt just passed $21.4 trillion, when does poker boom 2.0 start?

08-23-2018 , 11:36 AM

#787

otatop

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2027 or so, per the Trump advisers Mason referenced.

08-23-2018 , 11:46 AM

#788

Max Cut

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trickle, trickle, trickle, trickle.... BOOM!

#PokerComingBack2027

08-23-2018 , 01:22 PM

#789

watevs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

Been here since '11 and found out literally yesterday that there's an official and actively-run 2+2 Twitter account

https://twitter.com/twoplustwoforum

people have been banned ITT for this realization

08-26-2018 , 02:40 PM

#790

ScreaminAsian

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...68537012072449

08-26-2018 , 06:13 PM

#791

Max Cut

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Wow, buckle up, boys! Sounds like Next Year™ is going to be huge for poker!

#PokerComingBackNextYear

08-27-2018 , 01:30 AM

#792

SuperUberBob

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I'm sure Mason will vote for Trump in 2020. After all, he's gonna start a new poker boom!

09-12-2018 , 08:46 PM

#793

dth123451

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Good for the games

10-12-2018 , 04:25 AM

#794

SiMor29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dth123451

Good for the games

Onion surely...

11-22-2018 , 02:03 PM

#795

Morphismus

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Grunching. Thoughts on what Trump said about raking recently?

11-22-2018 , 02:28 PM

#796

+rep_lol

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the extra raking being done in california will obviously boost the poker economy

if we take more leaves from the fire embers, the forests wont burn as fast ldo