magic words in that article were 'Egyptian-Born'

unreal stuff at work here.

It must exciting when you're an historian and your boring conference tour becomes a field trip into the past!

SPIN ALERT!

Incompetence of government figures has been common for decades.

Challenging people as they come through customs has been common for decades.

The only thing that has not been common is attributing every instance as directly related to the current president.

Hue hue you are just applying Spin on this as is becoming standard procedure in this forum.

Happens under Obama and we take no notice, happens under Trump and it is his personal fault.

If any of you are still wondering why the typical non-politicized US citizen does not get upset every time you report something like this, it is because the American people are smart and know what spin is and know that you guys are laying on the spin all the time.

That's because Trump put out a memo telling LEOs to deport all undocumented people that came into contact with the police, not just people who had committed felonies/serious crimes like under Obama.

Lawyers: ICE detainee with brain tumor removed from hospital
http://thehill.com/latino/ice-immigr...-from-hospital

You forgot to add "this is why Trump won"

You mean the incompetence of our President? No, I think his level of incompetence reaches far beyond the normal level.

Nice SPIN there Einbert. Hue hue talks about customs officials being incompetent and you spin it as if Mr. Trump was in the room with them. I bet you think American citizens are dumb enough to swallow your nonsense, but we can see the spin in almost every post you make.

I'll let you get back to your activism for the "we think Americans are dumb" Democratic Party.

Every once in a while the reactionaries let it slip how little their political allegiance has to do with policy and how much it has to do with feeling looked down upon. Hmm, on second thought, it happens a lot more than just once in a while.

Everyone has interacted with cops, TSA, etc. and we all know that they shouldn't have this extreme amount of power. Trump is the one who gave it to them with his executive orders. So yes it falls on him for being incompetent.

Fwiw I've seen that history professor story on several french news sites. Whether that particular case could have happened under Obama or not, it gets attention as a symbol of the Trump border hysteria.

America is looking ****tier and ****tier to the rest of the world and that's entirely on hornbug's tribe, not on "democratic party spin".

Another Jewish cemetery vandalized. Apparently this is going to be a regular thing now.

Offered a steak well done with ketchup. How much more can the American people stand for this?

http://www.avclub.com/article/presid...ketchup-251081

Cite one such detainment under Obama.

Why even bother calling it spin or trying to explain it away, though? This is what you and Trump want! Brown people being detained and interrogated before they come into the country while we lay out the red carpet for white people.

This deserves a bigly MEH, do u c y?

This is good news to hornbug's tribe though. They want to the rest of the world shun the United States. Obviously I think if pressed they would acknowledge tourists or something could come spend money, maybe. If they have any personal incentives in their line or work or understand how economies work and stuff, they might acknowledge the utility of business travel.

But in any and all other ways, they don't want the intrusion. Remember, this is a generations long project to segregate themselves from the unsavory world of blacks and Muslims and modernity and rationality that they feel threatens them. Check out the comments of any Trump travel ban story or talk to a locally available Trumpkin IRL where some reasonable person will threaten that this kind of stuff threatens American's standing in the world while they cheer that on. That is aggrandizing for them. It's what they want.

Hard to feel comfortable going back to America even as a citizen.

Got interrogated before leaving in January and that was before Trump was sworn in. What's waiting for me when I come back? Anal rape?

Glen Greenwald

It's becoming increasingly clear that to many Americans, the simple fact of our military and economic dominance is what makes us great. It has nothing to do with our freedoms, our democracy (ha), the integrity of our judicial systems or our elections or even having great and wise leaders. It's simply being America, being USA #1.

Well in fairness, America's dominant position in the global order was a slow process that built primarily from the 1870s to the 1950s; during much of the time America wasn't quite as ideal as our best narratives might portend.

This is one of those areas where I do think liberals do themselves a disservice lambasting the right for their failure to acknowledge America is Already Great, etc., even if we all agree the right wants to backslide into autocracy and minority-rule. The opposite of "the right wing has terrible impulses" is not that the status quo is great or that we've always embodied the opposite of what right-wingers want.

I guess it's minor and fit for another thread but I'll use it as a jumping off point here that liberals should be working to disarm people of their fear of outsiders (hard, I know) rather than speaking to altruism and high-ideals and abstractions about the justice system and freedom that are in many ways just as fictional as the narratives the right-wing foists on people. We don't always have a justice system that operates with integrity, our democracy is problematic, our freedoms aren't perpetual and enduring for everyone. So there's a lot of fictions bundled into the counter-narrative, so to speak. I'm not going to give the right any credit here but you do have to appreciate liberals find themselves looking ham-handed when on the one hand we say, well we need Democrats in office to bring a more just social order, why look at the impoverishment and the problems in the justice system with how it treats black people and how women are treated, and how unfair it is to the poor, then beat up the right for failing to recognize our inherent goodness. That's where we might rightfully get seen as needlessly sanctimonious to observers.

It was his partner David Miranda and he was detained in London.

Not sure if the U.S. requested that or if the UK did it themselves.

"Dad why do we have to eat out of a dumpster when the old times were so good?"

"Well son, you see some mean liberals made fun of us, so we had to elect a crazy person."

"Why didn't you tell them to stop?"

"Well they didn't make fun of us to our faces, but on the TV news we watched. Also there was this thing called BLM, which really made us mad. But we only saw them on TV too."

"So why did you keep watching that?"

"Er, you had to be there."

lol you can insta-write-off any post ever trying to claim this as a piece of evidence

Tourists don't seem to feel like that very much any more, for obvious reasons.

I've never been to New York, and it was near the top of our list of holiday destinations before Trump happened. Now it doesn't even make the list.