“That’s what you get when you jump on some sort of bandwagon cause as an excuse to be lazy and/or get drunk,” Greer wrote.

I'm going to mince words with you here. Because on the one hand, that comment is in the context of supporting Trump, which makes it highly likely that the commenter is at least somewhat racist.

On the other hand, the statement "students jumped on this cause as an excuse to be lazy and/or get drunk," can easily be true. It certainly would have been true in my high school 10 years ago and other nearby schools where I lived in Jersey. That statement in and of itself is not racist.

The article does not provide evidence that the other teachers who were also placed on leave said anything even close to racist.

Of course some of the teachers may have had very different reactions, but there was a walk-out at my kids' HS shortly after the election and this was the reaction from the administration:

Neither of my kids went on that walk-out, but my eldest was one of the speakers at the on campus rally.

Which is why I'm fairly well convinced we're completely ****ed.

What part of what they were posting is not racist? How is it appropriate for teachers to publicly say this about their students? This is stupid people saying stupid things in public thinking only their friends will see it. They are too stupid to be teaching our children anything.

Basically all except for the Trump guy.

To say they're racist, you would have to be convinced that those comments would not be made by teachers in a white high school. But the same comments would be made imo and ime. If you give students an attendance excuse for staying home and supporting a noble cause, then suddenly the worst-behaved students will become activists by skipping class. That's what the teachers are cheering about in those posts.

IME, comments of this nature are never based on evidence and are always "We all know what's going on here" *wink wink* type comments.

I'm going to have to call bull**** on this. You're trying to remove the context from their comments. The context was a pro-immagrant rally that was being supported by mostly latino students, so you have a bunch of teachers saying **** because their latino students weren't in class.

Let's remove any racial element from it, which I don't think you can, and it's still problematic for these teachers because they are being dicks about their students on social media. You don't really get to do that anymore.

Ymmv I guess, but in this case, it's not even like all the Latino students were gone. The school is 91% Latino (according to the original story in PressEnterprise). So even given the absences (which according to one teacher was half of his students), the vast majority of present students would still be Latino. Seems very uncharitable to assume racism.

When I taught College Algebra (NEVER AGAIN), there were baseball players that were super disruptive. When there was a game which made them miss class, I would get a lot more done and have a much more productive class. I'm sure I said things to friends like "Let's petition for a game everyday." I view their comments as similar (edit: although I will address kerowo's point about context).

"Their Latino students weren't in class," is not true. See the figure I quoted above. The classes were still almost certainly majority Latino.

Only the Trump guy said anything negative about the cause. The other teachers can be glad for a day free of their most disruptive students without opposing the cause.

I think you're reading the situation as:

Immigrant Day --> Teachers celebrate absence of "bad" students --> "Bad" = Immigrants for these teachers

Now, here's my read:

Immigrant Day --> Excuse for anybody who wants to miss class --> Very worst students snap skip, regardless of support for immigrants (along with some good students and sincere supporters of the cause) --> Teachers celebrate absence of bad students

In other words, I see the teachers as being happy that the bad students had an excuse to skip and took that opportunity.

I'm sure less disruption had more to do with smaller class size, than a sense of certain kids.

Disagree.
If you gave teachers the option to either:
1) remove 5 students of their choice and replace them with 5 randoms
2) remove 5 randoms

What % would choose the 1st?

That doesn't challenge the point you were referring to. Both could result in a reduction in the level of disruption with the first having a greater impact than the second depending on the randoms.

The way I read the story is the Trump supporting racist teacher says his thing and the rest of the teachers are agreeing with him. Certainly none of them said, "Hey, settle down there" or anything. I can understand teachers not liking their students but bitching about them on facebook is just stupid and is going to end in people getting ****canned.

No, your two scenarios are not equivalent experiments. In the latter you are actually testing smaller class size (surprise it works), in the former you are just letting remove the problems that the teacher is having (the teacher is happier, duh!). Worse yet, there is the possibility that the teacher could cast out students in a discriminatory way. It's tempting to think all the problems will be deported and we'll never hear anything from them again, but we both know that's not true.

Look, suppose there are five actual problem children in a classroom, and we remove them from the class/room/school. They still need to get their education. They have that right, and we as society need them to not get left behind, if you like slogans. But then by selecting them out, the only thing we've accomplished is created a bigger class of problem children for some other teacher. That approach works sometimes, when selecting gifted children, but it absolutely doesnt work when you are selecting for bad discipline.

Posting how much you dislike certain students on Facebook, which can be pretty easily seen and shared even if it's private to most people, seems like a pretty terrible play. You can bitch about it in the teachers lounge or something but why put it on record like that? I am Fbook friends with an old teacher who I enjoyed in HS who now posts dumb right-wing talking points and Drudge articles and can't back up any of his assertions but I've never once seen him make a post that could be construed as being directed towards specific students.

Unequivalencies aside, youknowwhatImean. I would bet removing a few disruptors > reduced class size (while both being beneficial) to an individual teacher.

What to do with 'problem' kids is beyond me.

https://twitter.com/GIJoter/status/833798157377040384

Where Julian Ass angel generalizes priest pedo rape to "teen sex".

One thing about the pedophilia thing is that it completely laid bare the artifice that conservatives wink-wink-nudge-nudge didn't AGREE with Milo about blacks, gays, transsexuals, women, and so forth, but they were just SO COMMITTED to free speech.

Remember, bad ideas need to be confronted with better ideas?

Whoops no it turns out that liberals were right all along.

With regard to right wing teachers, my province--> Ontario had a former teacher become Premier (leader of the province), he did a great job of cutting the ridiculous spending and took on the teacher's union (highest total pay in the world I think), and subsequently every single teacher hates Conservatives in the province. There aren't any right wing teachers anymore in Ontario, it's kind of odd. (I'm right wing in Canada, but if I could vote in the US it would definitely be Democrat)

After refusing to watch LGBT diversity video, Social Security judge sues to avoid being fired

What exactly is the religious belief here? Does he wish to not acknowledge the gays exist?

From my FB feed.

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