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01-30-2019 , 02:22 PM

#7876

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!

I'm pretty sure you are supposed to have ID to travel on any intercity transportation.

wait what

you can fly (domestically) without ID, though it's a gigantic pain in the ass

01-30-2019 , 04:14 PM

#7877

suzzer99

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Actually I've seen it move people to the front of the line. YMMV

01-30-2019 , 08:40 PM

#7878

Victor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

https://www.ohio.com/news/20190119/r...xual-encounter

In 1996, internationally known televangelist Ernest Angley admitted to his assistant minister that he had had sexual relations with a man who was employed by their church, Grace Cathedral in Cuyahoga Falls.

The telephone conversation was tape-recorded and made available to the Beacon Journal and Ohio.com last month.

...

The source believed releasing the tape would show that Angley, who has preached vehemently against the “sin” of homosexuality, has a history of sexual abuse involving his employees.

...

On the 23-year-old tape, Davis expresses anger over Angley telling someone that Davis’ wife, Regina, made a “vulgar” comment. Word got back to her, and she was distraught.

Davis: “There’s been horrible discord here ... [while Angley was on a mission trip in Africa]. It’s all I could do to keep [Regina] from talking. She was so angry over that word ‘vulgar.’ You know what she said she was going to tell? She said, ‘I’ll tell you what vulgar is: Him and [name withheld] naked, laying in Angel’s bed, masturbating each other and going to the bathroom to have to wash the ejaculation off his hands.’ ...” Angel is Angley’s wife, who died in 1970.

Angley: “That’s not true because I didn’t ejaculate him. I didn’t make him cum.”

Davis: “Well, you was both naked in that bed.”

Angley: “Well, I didn’t make him cum.”

Davis: “Well, he made you cum then because he ... described your penis.”

Angley: “He didn’t make me cum. No, he didn’t.”

Davis: “Well, you was in there naked.”

Angley: “Well, I didn’t say I wasn’t.”

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Angley has consistently condemned homosexuality. In a 1995 book called “Oh, God, What a Mess!” he wrote, “Homosexuality is vile, vile before God; and it will send souls to hell.”

I worked at a fast food joint directly across the street from his church. when he was speaking, man there were some weirdos that came in. like, every single person that came in was just straight up weird. they all gave me the creeps. will never forget the feeling around those ppl.

01-31-2019 , 09:28 AM

#7879

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chymechowder

according to chicago police, the "This is maga country" line was not reported to them.

OF COURSE that doesnt make the assault any less horrible. this is not a defense of the attackers, nor is it questioning the victim.

TMZ reported the maga quote. chicago pd spokesperson says that isn't part of their record.

Good looking out.

01-31-2019 , 04:00 PM

#7880

6ix

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigt2k4

I was pretty scared when biking back to my friend's optometry school in the middle of the worst neighbourhood in Chicago uphill after a long ride in hot weather when a shirtless, muscular guy missing all his teeth started yelling at me mostly in jibberish, but with a few known expletives

Which neighborhood?

01-31-2019 , 04:20 PM

#7881

microbet

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Measures of badness of neighborhoods are not that simple. I don't know Chicago, but I know LA and the "poorest neighborhood", "neighborhood with most gang violence", "neighborhood with most random violence" and "worst place to walk alone at night" were certainly not all the same place.

01-31-2019 , 04:32 PM

#7882

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Heh. I fell asleep on the red line while I was an intern at Evanston hospital coming home at 1am and woke up at 95th on the south side. The conductor woke me up and made me come up and sit with him in the cab until we got to Harrison and gave me the impression that I was lucky to be unstabbed. FWIW I'm 6'2+ 240 and very white. So I'm guessing the neighborhood around 95th might be "bad", at least for a pastel guy at 1am.

MM MD

01-31-2019 , 04:35 PM

#7883

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Originally Posted by hobbes9324

I worked for years in the highest crime areas of SoCal during the peak of the late 80s/early 90s crime wave and every once in a while someone would suggest that I was lucky to go unstabbed. I guess I was just really really lucky.

(6'3" 190lbs and white, depending on who you ask)

01-31-2019 , 04:39 PM

#7884

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Well, I respected the conductors opinion. He seemed legitimately surprised that I hadn't been at least mugged.

MM MD

01-31-2019 , 04:45 PM

#7885

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Curious, what's the worst place to walk alone at night?

01-31-2019 , 04:57 PM

#7886

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeC2012

Curious, what's the worst place to walk alone at night?

Well, it would be away from residential or high traffic commercial streets. So, like industrial park in Compton/Lynwood/Vernon or something. I guess down an alley in high crime residential neighborhood at night would be up there too. Baldwin Village was notorious for being dangerous, and called "the Jungle", but there are lots of eyes everywhere and just because people are in gangs doesn't mean they just randomly stab people for no reason or even brazenly mug people out in the open.

I'm not sure that's true though. An adult male walking alone at night isn't really an interesting target - either you are likely to be armed yourself or to not have anything valuable anyway. My M-in-Law was carjacked in Beverly Hills, so maybe an alley in a commercial area of B.Hills would actually be more dangerous for many people. Times have changed though and nowhere in LA is that dangerous anymore.

If you're a 20 year old black or Mexican kid walking alone at night though, it's very different. In some areas you will be challenged as a possible rival ("where you from?") and in others the police will likely stop you. Much more dangerous than anything big pasty white dudes face.

01-31-2019 , 08:49 PM

#7887

6ix

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hobbes9324

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobbes9324

Well, I respected the conductors opinion. He seemed legitimately surprised that I hadn't been at least mugged.

MM MD

If you start walking south from the 95th stop you'll hit Roseland, which has always been kinda "bad" and is sketchy to me, but the actual train station and other neighborhoods in other directions are fine. They're definitely black neighborhoods on the poorer side and I think we all know that's what many mean by "bad", full stop, but they're nothing particularly dramatic. Chicago State University is like 3 blocks east.

What the conductor was probably worried about was you falling prey to thieves since you were having trouble staying awake. Getting "robbed" or "mugged" sorta denotes being awake and subjected to violence but the train thieves would take advantage of sleeping passengers.

http://www.chicagonow.com/cta-tattle...-16-this-year/

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In the past two weeks I have heard from two different CTA Tattler readers about having their pants sliced on the Red Line and wallets taken by a late-night pickpocket as the victims snoozed on their way home.

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01-31-2019 , 09:01 PM

#7888

6ix

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

.. just because people are in gangs doesn't mean they just randomly stab people for no reason ...

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Unless those people are in The Stabbers, but you can usually steer clear of them by spotting the big knife patch on their matching jackets.

01-31-2019 , 11:01 PM

#7889

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02-01-2019 , 12:03 AM

#7890

ChrisV

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Oh man.

For anyone who doesn't know, Max Boot is a quintessential neocon. Iraq War cheerleader, still cheerleading for interventions all over the middle-east. One of those insufferable *******s who wrote a book about the GOP vs True Conservatives in 2016.

02-01-2019 , 12:43 AM

#7891

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Isn't this his 15th time to complain that the mob hath come for him?

02-01-2019 , 12:50 AM

#7892

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I think so, yeah. Don't bother reading it. He concludes with this:

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But I can’t pretend that this brouhaha was all the fault of my attackers. I’m ultimately to blame, because I deployed an incendiary analogy in a clumsy fashion that left lots of room for misunderstanding. My chief lesson is to be more careful in what I write. Analogies, in particular, can illuminate, but they can also obscure and confuse. They need to be handled carefully, like rhetorical high explosives.

Here is that misbegotten analogy:

Quote:

“In fighting these insurgents, the United States needs to eschew its big war mindset. ...,” I wrote. “We need to think of these deployments in much the same way as we thought of our Indian Wars, which lasted roughly 300 years (ca. 1600-1890), or as the British thought about their deployment on the Northwest Frontier (today’s Pakistan-Afghanistan border), which lasted 100 years (1840s-1940s).”

He made a comparison between present-day US wars and past instances of genocide. The correct headline for the WaPo piece should be "Max Boot: I'm an idiot and Twitter enjoys making fun of me".

02-01-2019 , 10:23 AM

#7893

bigt2k4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 6ix

Which neighborhood?

In the middle of the projects, google optometry school Chicago. It's within 2 km of where the White Sox play

02-01-2019 , 11:17 AM

#7894

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Yeah I'd be more worried about some place that's almost completely empty and exposed than anything else. Gang bangers on hot blocks just want to sell drugs to whitey. It's bad for business to go mugging him and brings the heat down. But yeah don't be black or latino.

02-01-2019 , 01:06 PM

#7895

ReasonableGuy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

I think so, yeah. Don't bother reading it. He concludes with this:

Here is that misbegotten analogy:

He made a comparison between present-day US wars and past instances of genocide. The correct headline for the WaPo piece should be "Max Boot: I'm an idiot and Twitter enjoys making fun of me".

Just wow. Talk about saying the quiet parts loud!

02-01-2019 , 01:38 PM

#7896

All-In Flynn

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The thread is worth a few scrolls, some absolute gems from the actual perp and a few deplorables cheering him on.

02-01-2019 , 03:10 PM

#7897

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Always the damn goatee.

Like take off the hat - and what are the odds that guy isn't a Trumpfan - one in fifty?

02-01-2019 , 04:41 PM

#7898

goofyballer

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Racist cop in Detroit is demoted after posting Snapchat video mocking black woman whose car he impounded

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A veteran Detroit police officer has been demoted and reassigned after posting a Snapchat video showing a black woman whose car he had just impounded walking home alone while he and another officer make derogatory remarks about her to each other in the background.

Meanwhile, pre-made captions that say “What black girl magic looks like” and “celebrating Black History Month” appear at the bottom.

The officer who created the video was identified as Gary Steele. He and his partner had pulled the woman over on Tuesday night because her registration had expired, police said. The officers were going to have her vehicle towed.

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Steele has had issues with the law himself. In 2008, he was charged with attacking an ex-girlfriend and firing a gun near her head, according to the Detroit News. He pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and was able to keep his job at the police department, the newspaper reported.

“His history is troubling,” Craig said. “There’s a pattern, and I’m concerned about that pattern.”

He added: “He’s been a part of the force for 18½ years, who we expect to know better. This is a person who trains new officers.”

02-01-2019 , 04:46 PM

#7899

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A year after teachers went on strike in 3 red states, legislators seek to punish them

West Virginia:

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In a budget bill the legislature is fast-tracking, teacher raises and funding for the health-care system for state employees would be tied to provisions including:

Increasing class sizes.
Denying pay during future strikes.
Support for “school choice” in the form of charter schools and a program to use public money for private and religious-school education.

Oklahoma:

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S.B. 592 would require any organized protest of 100 or more people at the state Capitol to pay $50,000 in advance to the Oklahoma Capitol Improvement Authority, the state agency that provides bond funding for government office buildings.

H.B. 2214 would make it illegal for any “board of education or school district employee . . . to strike or threaten to strike or otherwise close schools or interfere with school operations as a means of resolving differences with the board of education, the State Department of Education, the State Board of Education, the Legislature or any other public official or public body.”

And it seeks to deny pay to any teacher participating in a strike or related school shutdown while the striker is out and would have the person’s State Board of Education-issued certificate “permanently revoked.”

Arizona:

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A bill in the Arizona House, H.B. 2002, would require the State Board of Education to adopt a “code of ethics” for teachers that calls for an explicit ban on politics in public schools. The language is nearly identical to a proposed code advanced by the ultraconservative David Horowitz Freedom Center.

Another bill, H.B. 2017, is aimed at preventing another strike and prohibits public schools from shutting down except during approved breaks, holidays or during a national or environmental emergency. An accompanying bill would require the state’s attorney general to investigate a school district or employee accused of violating state law.

H.B. 1232 would prohibit payroll deductions for union dues for school district, local government and state employees — but, it is worth noting, firefighters, police officers and other emergency workers would be exempt from the ban on payroll deductions.

02-01-2019 , 04:47 PM

#7900

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Military academies in Trump's America see rates of unwanted sexual contact rise by 50% for cadets since 2017

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The estimated number of men and women experiencing unwanted sexual contact at the U.S. military’s service academies jumped 47 percent since the figures were last gathered two years ago, raising concerns about the Pentagon’s efforts to reduce sexual violence among the future leaders of the U.S. armed forces.

According to the survey, which the Defense Department released Thursday, an estimated 747 cadets and midshipmen at the military’s three service academies experienced unwanted sexual contact during the 2017-2018 academic year, up from 507 cadets and midshipmen two years ago.

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