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10-29-2018 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
andrew gillum's - im not saying he's racist, im saying racists believe he's racist. is what im going to start saying to people like this guy.. because they just come back with a bland "well, i personally have not seen evidence he's racist, with my own two eyes, he has not called a black person the n-word directly in front of my person..."

Lol this is terrible. Trump was straight up sued - twice - for violating the FHA. Because he refused to rent housing to people that weren't white. How is that for passing the racist test?

"afaik the only litmus test for racism is whether you have actually raped someone to death with a Sambo doll while reciting Mein Kampf in the original German"
10-29-2018 , 04:26 PM


WTF



I think this account is real?
10-29-2018 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
if you you were successful you could get the award.
So how did trump get it
10-29-2018 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
So how did trump get it
He claimed his daddy’s success as his own, and his daddy played along.
10-29-2018 , 04:31 PM
PokerDharma

Do you not remember what happened when Obama was president that might've made more people unemployed compared to now?

Also I don't get what black and Hispanic unemployment rates have to do with Trump, they have been trending this way since 2010.
10-29-2018 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerDharma
Wrong. There are numerous people that vote Republican and aren't Reactionary Fundamentalist Christian. Many aren't even Christian. I work in an office full of Republican voters, including a Costa Rican immigrant, and only two of them would even consider classifying themselves as Christian, but definitely not fundamentalist Christian. The Costa Rican is Atheist, the Redneck is undecided, and the rest of us are more in tune with Taoism and Buddhism.

Generalizations suck, and spouting them does nothing but show off your complete lack of knowledge.
the college republicans platform as quoted is nothing but reactionary white christian male garbage, i dont know why you're talking about your co-workers and ****
10-29-2018 , 04:38 PM
those kind of awards always remind me of a lot of the attorney awards that are given out. If a firm buys a couple tables at their fundraiser there's a very likely chance their new associate will suddenly be a "superlawyer" or whatever.

i have a bunch of totally derp lawschool friends that have racked up some of those awards and couldn't lawyer their way out of a parking ticket.
10-29-2018 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
NPR is fake news, how dare you cite them to spread your outrageous bull**** lies. The actual unemployment rate is about 37% and everyone knows it. Travel anywhere around the country and you’ll see it, laughable that you would actually believe Trump’s government when he tells you those obvious lies.
Lol it’s truly amazing how fast they made this switch, like within months of trump taking office. He evaporated 30%+ unemployment in a matter of months! Wow!

Like the mental gymnastics involved to go from “shadow unemployment is actually 40%” to “unemployment is 3.8% thank you god-king trump!” is so fascinating to me.
10-29-2018 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerDharma
Originally Posted by PokerDharma View Post
more minorities working now than when Obama was president



This is from NPR...

"Trump is right that African-American unemployment hit a record low in December. The unemployment rate for black Americans is currently 6.8 percent, the lowest level recorded since the government started keeping track in January 1972.

And he's also right that the Hispanic unemployment rate is down a point over the last year — it was at 4.9 percent in December, down from 5.9 percent in December 2016. That is close to a record low, though it's also up 0.1 point from November."

When I made that statement it was not in effort to say that Trump gets credit for it, I even had a disclaimer in one of the posts that he doesn't deserve all of the credit, but the fact is correct that unemployment among minorities is lower. My question was HOW has he made it ****tier? So far the trend line is continuing downwards so it seems that he is either contributing to the positive trend line of low unemployment or just not ****ing it up. Either way, I'm having trouble seeing as to how he has made it ****tier. Feel free to enlighten me. Or call me names; that's probably easier for you.
If you are a Muslim immigrant from certain countries, you don't get to see your family again.

If you are a refugee lawfully seeking asylum, you have your children ripped away from you and maybe even made into de facto orphans.

If you are gay, Trump wants you to be able to be fired for it.

Trump tried to remove the health insurance of millions of people, but thankfully he failed.

Trump is slashing environmental regulations that will result in thousands of premature deaths.

If you are a Hispanic citizen born near the Mexican border, you may have your citizenship challenged and then stripped, and then you get deported to a country you never knew and barred from returning.

If you are a black person, funding for combating white supremacist groups was eliminated. If you are killed by a cop, Trump assumes that you must have deserved it. If you want to vote, Trump will do nothing when the Georgia secretary of state illegally purges you from the voter roll.

If you want birth control, Trump thinks you should have to pay extra for it if your employer wants to impose his religious beliefs on you.
10-29-2018 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Also you ignored my question and answered it with a question of your own. This is an admission of being wrong.

I'll give you another chance. Is promoting the ideology that "all Jews should be exterminated" an incitement of violence, yes or no?
I didn't purposely ignore your question; please forgive me for not answering it directly. It's really close, and I think it probably depends on how it's promoted, and again may come down to whether or not the person promoting it actually has a power of people. So it's a matter of where we draw the line. At what point is it free speech versus true encouragement to act violently or criminally. I think a lawyer would have a field day with the word "should" here.

Maybe there's a spectrum here where wearing a Nazi uniform just makes for a ****ty person, isn't quite inciting someone to act violently, and therefore protected by free speech, but holding meetings where it's easily proven you now have power over a group of people to actually get them to act out is therefore a criminal act nor protected by free speech.

Tough spot for sure.
10-29-2018 , 04:43 PM
For the 100th time, it is absolutely awful to draw anything economically from unemployment alone in the 21st century. It actually meant something 30 years ago when unemployment correlated with wages and other factors, but it no longer does.
10-29-2018 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Let's say Johnny Naziface sees douchenazi dad walking around town in his Nazi uniform, not getting any pushback, being greeted by neighbors, and welcomed to local social events.

Maybe Johnny Naziface thinks "hmmm, see it isn't so bad to be a loud, proud Nazi. Yeah! All those Jews SHOULD be exterminated. Where can I buy one of those sweet Nazi unis, Daddy Douchenazi?"

Is this the sign of a healthy, respectable society? I mean, we've preserved the freedom of speech so the message of hate and violence can grow. We must be winning, right? What a great ****ing society you want to live in.
Well said and fair point which again is what makes this a tough spot to just rule on. My questions were more directed at justification to deliver someone a beatdown which a few people seemed to support. If we were to indeed make hate speech unprotected by the 1st amendment then we're onto a slippery slope of what defines hate speech. For example, there was a fairly recent case in Europe where someone made a remark regarding the Prophet Mohammad and was fined for it. The comment wasn't even derogatory or hateful. Just a comment that he took of a 7 year old wife, nothing more.
10-29-2018 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Anecdotes are not data
I'm not sure what you mean regarding anecdotes. I assume the comment regarding minorities praising him. I'm not sure how that is an anecdote rather than just hearing peoples' positive opinions of a person.

They weren't telling jokes / stories about him - many minorities genuinely approve of him. Did you see the reception they gave him at the Summit on Black Youth? They definitely weren't booing him.
10-29-2018 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Bahaha, I didn't even notice the line about the country being sexist against men.

You know it bud, it's sooooooooo tough to be a man these days. Now you're speaking my language.

I should have Crossnerd come in here and rip you a few dozen new *******s
Not sure what you're getting at here, but I assume this is directed at me. Did I make any statement that men were oppressed?
10-29-2018 , 05:00 PM
https://twitter.com/GOPTeens



I honestly can't tell if this is a parody account or not. What a world we live in.
10-29-2018 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Nah some ideas aren't worth being heard and are potentially dangerous. Words led to the deaths of 100 million people in WWII. Hitler admitted w/o decades of anti-semitic propaganda setting the tone - he never would have been able to take the next steps that he did.

For the most part the world has correctly landed on the idea that Nazis, eugenicists and their ilk don't need to be heard out.
Well said and I 100% agree with you. But does that justify you delivering a beatdown to someone you believe is spreading hate propaganda?
10-29-2018 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerDharma
Well said and fair point which again is what makes this a tough spot to just rule on. My questions were more directed at justification to deliver someone a beatdown which a few people seemed to support. If we were to indeed make hate speech unprotected by the 1st amendment then we're onto a slippery slope of what defines hate speech. For example, there was a fairly recent case in Europe where someone made a remark regarding the Prophet Mohammad and was fined for it. The comment wasn't even derogatory or hateful. Just a comment that he took of a 7 year old wife, nothing more.
These slippery slope arguments are not good. Canada has hate speech laws. So does the EU. Both places are in much, much better places wrt discourse than the USA.

Dharma, is "I don't think beating up Hitler would have been justified" really the argument worth going for here?
10-29-2018 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerDharma
Not sure what you're getting at here, but I assume this is directed at me. Did I make any statement that men were oppressed?


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Originally Posted by PokerDharma
He's definitely sexist. You win that one hands down. However I would argue that our society is very sexist on both sides of the fence, male and female.

Appreciate the comments.
How is our society sexist against males?
10-29-2018 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OneEyedPoker
PokerDharma

Do you not remember what happened when Obama was president that might've made more people unemployed compared to now?

Also I don't get what black and Hispanic unemployment rates have to do with Trump, they have been trending this way since 2010.
I never said, "Trump created the lowest unemployment rates...". I even dropped a disclaimer that he doesn't get all of the credit. I asked how he made it ****tier since the trend line is continuing to drop lower.
10-29-2018 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
These slippery slope arguments are not good. Canada has hate speech laws. So does the EU. Both places are in much, much better places wrt discourse than the USA.

Dharma, is "I don't think beating up Hitler would have been justified" really the argument worth going for here?
Also, I don't think a ton of us are advocating violence here. I mean, I wouldn't sneeze at national punch a Nazi day, but I probably wouldn't personally participate.
10-29-2018 , 05:08 PM
That @GOPTeens account is one of the best parodies I've seen for a while.

10-29-2018 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
the college republicans platform as quoted is nothing but reactionary white christian male garbage, i dont know why you're talking about your co-workers and ****
I tend to balk at generalizations that's all. My point being that not 100% of republicans are reactionary christian fundamentalists. Sometimes I'm surprised by the people that vote red. People that are absolutely NOT Christian.
10-29-2018 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Trump is slashing environmental regulations that will result in thousands of premature deaths.
And just to be clear, this isn't some left-wing woo-woo "He's killing people!" type thing, this is according to the EPA.

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Originally Posted by suzzer99
https://twitter.com/GOPTeens



I honestly can't tell if this is a parody account or not. What a world we live in.
It's
Spoiler:
a parody
10-29-2018 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Also, I don't think a ton of us are advocating violence here. I mean, I wouldn't sneeze at national punch a Nazi day, but I probably wouldn't personally participate.
Lol. I chortled.
10-29-2018 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerDharma
Well said and I 100% agree with you. But does that justify you delivering a beatdown to someone you believe is spreading hate propaganda?
If it's hateful enough yes. Inciting violence is a form of violence.


      
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