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02-19-2019 , 06:41 PM
Well at least we know now where Trump got all his money for his inauguration.
02-19-2019 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
no worries. mueller's illegal, unethical, and almost completely fraudulent investigation is quickly balancing that out.

all the dems had to do was let Trump be Trump and they would have had plenty of ammo to remove him from office. Instead, they lost their **** and made up a slew of bogus charges. And, ironically enough, that kind of intense pressure has kept Trump from Trumping himself out of office.

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Name one charge Mueller has filed against anyone that is bogus.
02-19-2019 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Name one charge Mueller has filed against anyone that is bogus.
I think he was being sarcastic
02-19-2019 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
lol you thought the knockout game was real.
The knockout game was real. It probably wasn’t as widespread as reported/believed, but we even had one in my jurisdiction.
02-19-2019 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
I think he was being sarcastic
I'm pretty sure that one believes in conspiracies
02-19-2019 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
no worries. mueller's illegal, unethical, and almost completely fraudulent investigation is quickly balancing that out.

all the dems had to do was let Trump be Trump and they would have had plenty of ammo to remove him from office. Instead, they lost their **** and made up a slew of bogus charges. And, ironically enough, that kind of intense pressure has kept Trump from Trumping himself out of office.

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Mueller was appointed by Rod Rosenstein, who in turn was appointed by Trump. Rod Rosenstein is a Republican. Mueller is a lifelong Republican who was appointed FBI Director by George W. Bush, Deputy Attorney General (Acting) By George W. Bush, Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Criminal Division by George H. W. Bush, and U.S. Attorney for Massachusetts by Ronald Reagan. Exactly which democrats are responsible for the Mueller investigation again?
02-19-2019 , 09:24 PM
Super, super unfair to have illegal WITCH HUNT investigations of a President, the GOP would never countenance such a thing, other than that one time 20 years ago where they investigated a President for a real estate deal in Arkansas in the late 70s and wound up impeaching him for lying about having an affair in the present day.
02-19-2019 , 10:21 PM
02-19-2019 , 10:33 PM
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Last edited by formula72; 02-19-2019 at 10:48 PM. Reason: Off topic
02-20-2019 , 01:18 AM
Enough snowflakes in that story to make either party’s supporters happy.
02-20-2019 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by shorn7
Can't we all just agree that there are despicable people on both sides and be done? .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance


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Originally Posted by jman220
The knockout game was real. It probably wasn’t as widespread as reported/believed, but we even had one in my jurisdiction.
Very much this.

It was exploited by racists to imply that all black people are thugs though I believe there were instances of white kids doing this too.
02-20-2019 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance




Very much this.

It was exploited by racists to imply that all black people are thugs though I believe there were instances of white kids doing this too.
Not sure if joking or obtuse
02-20-2019 , 01:16 PM
You deplorables always play the both sides card to justify to others supporting immoral actions by the Republicans instead of being angry that they are happening in the first place.

That's because the reality is that you and the other Trump supporters love that asylum seekers are having their children taken away from them and are okay with more hate crimes so long as it triggers the libs. It's more respectable to come out and admit it instead of obfuscating this truth with fallacious arguments.
02-20-2019 , 01:28 PM
still not 100% sure, but becoming clearer
02-20-2019 , 01:37 PM
throw out the definition of false balance, then include
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though I believe there were instances of white kids doing this too.
in the same post. that's funny.

edit:
does that make me deplorable?
02-20-2019 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NhlNut
throw out the definition of false balance, then include

in the same post. that's funny.

edit:
does that make me deplorable?
lol I wasn't defending knockout games you dolt. It's completely different and I'm sure you're smart enough to be aware of that.

No need to waste my time with a bad faith arguer any longer.
02-20-2019 , 01:44 PM
I can't speak for other deplorables, but I disagree with you, SuperUberBob. It's the obnoxious self-righteousness and obviously false sweeping generalizations that trigger me most.

I don't like people being shat on by society any more than you do, but I think I am also far more willing to assign some level of personal responsibility to a variety of situations than you. It's like the Louis CK bit where he says, "OF COURSE it's horrible that X happened, but MAYBE they shouldn't have Y". But any time I do so, it's immediately escalated to the level of "LOL INSO BLAMING THE RAPE VICTIM FOR WEARING A SKIRT."

I'm not going to defend anyone who commits a hate crime either, but I can't take people seriously who spout of as if everyone on my "side" does. So when I start arguing against that sentiment and you or your ilk turn that into me/others defending the crime, I roll my eyes and move on.

I know it's the internet anonymity talking in most cases, but good lord you guys need to just tone it down a bit.
02-20-2019 , 01:45 PM
NHL,

Black and white people are not opposing political parties that are selected by choice. That is a very important difference between the two situations. Can't answer your edit for you.
02-20-2019 , 01:46 PM
SUB, I don't think he is arguing in bad faith or suggesting you defended the knockout game. I think he is pointing out that in a post blasting "false balance" you said "well white people did the knockout game too".
02-20-2019 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
I can't speak for other deplorables, but I disagree with you, SuperUberBob. It's the obnoxious self-righteousness and obviously false sweeping generalizations that trigger me most.

I don't like people being shat on by society any more than you do, but I think I am also far more willing to assign some level of personal responsibility to a variety of situations than you. It's like the Louis CK bit where he says, "OF COURSE it's horrible that X happened, but MAYBE they shouldn't have Y". But any time I do so, it's immediately escalated to the level of "LOL INSO BLAMING THE RAPE VICTIM FOR WEARING A SKIRT."

I'm not going to defend anyone who commits a hate crime either, but I can't take people seriously who spout of as if everyone on my "side" does. So when I start arguing against that sentiment and you or your ilk turn that into me/others defending the crime, I roll my eyes and move on.

I know it's the internet anonymity talking in most cases, but good lord you guys need to just tone it down a bit.
Yet there is a pretty specific pattern for the injustices you are driven to speak out about and those that you don't.
02-20-2019 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
SUB, I don't think he is arguing in bad faith or suggesting you defended the knockout game. I think he is pointing out that in a post blasting "false balance" you said "well white people did the knockout game too".
this.
02-20-2019 , 02:10 PM
If the knockout game, to whatever extent it was even a thing, is consistently portrayed as something only black kids engage/d in, then it can't possibly be 'false' balance to point out that white kids did/do it too. And that's just the 'false' part, ignoring the fact that 'black kids' is not like, the opposite of 'white kids' or some opposing faction in some notional debate or conflict; if the KG exists and if it's portrayed as an exclusively black activity and yet it isn't, then that portrayal itself is false and correcting that falsehood is the opposite of false, or 'true' if you will.

ETA I mean imagine some guy saying that literally only black people ever rape. Pointing to the existence of white rapists would not be 'false balance', it would be correcting a racist falsehood.
02-20-2019 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
You deplorables always play the both sides card to justify to others supporting immoral actions by the Republicans instead of being angry that they are happening in the first place.

That's because the reality is that you and the other Trump supporters love that asylum seekers are having their children taken away from them and are okay with more hate crimes so long as it triggers the libs. It's more respectable to come out and admit it instead of obfuscating this truth with fallacious arguments.
Not a Trump supporter...loathe the guy. Nothing I have posted "supports immoral actions by Repubs". Hate crimes are awful no matter who commits them. But since you didn't acknowledge the data I posted on reported hate crimes, not sure how you can claim that I was "obfuscating the truth" at all. I actually was curious on the data given a post that said "hate crimes always go up when one party (insinuating R) is in power". I think the reality is much more complicated than that.
02-20-2019 , 02:51 PM
It was not complicated in thinking hate crimes would go up under trump since he has used hate and fear of the others to gain power. Super easy prediction.
02-20-2019 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by shorn7
I think the reality is much more complicated than that.
You think reality is:

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Originally Posted by shorn7
This thread gives me a headache. Can't we all just agree that there are despicable people on both sides and be done?
That would be so nice and simple, wouldn't it? "Both sides" have despicable people, that's it, no more introspection needed here.

Do you think reality is, perhaps, much more complicated than "both sides have despicable people"? Is it possible that "both sides" are not in fact exactly the same?

      
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