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07-27-2018 , 09:35 AM
"Yeah, you know What? I AM great. I'm glad we had this press conference."
07-27-2018 , 10:02 AM
****ing Ohio. We're basically Alabama without the hot girls and accents.
07-28-2018 , 12:49 PM
Eric Church, who is getting pretty big in the country music world came out and slammed the NRA pretty hard and made Trump seem limp dick. I think this is pretty big news as it pierces a lot of apolotical and conservative bubbles. Anything that causes people to pay attention or critically think is good.

There's a dirty little trick in country music. The genre is seen as conservative, rural, "Real America", yet those who make it live in Nashville and tend to be liberal. Feels almost like the musicians are playing a stereotype or character for their audience.
07-28-2018 , 12:51 PM
Or that they start that way because of their upbringing and then get some money and get away from other conservatives...
07-28-2018 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by aarono2690
There's a dirty little trick in country music. The genre is seen as conservative, rural, "Real America", yet those who make it live in Nashville and tend to be liberal. Feels almost like the musicians are playing a stereotype or character for their audience.
But remember that their conservative audience is to a large extent also engaged in a kayfabe as well: suburban upper-middle-class white dudes pretending to be country while driving their shiny new F-150 to the range to fire a few rounds from their tricked-out AR-15, those dudes are largely the people buying pricey front-row tickets to Toby Keith concerts. At least with musicians there's a respectable tradition for artists to pretend to be more authentic/hardcore than they really are. We all accept that rappers and rock stars are not necessarily the characters they pose as, so why should country be much different.
07-28-2018 , 01:54 PM
Modern country is so over the top cliche and cloying I’m not surprised if the artists turn out to be huge phonies.
07-28-2018 , 02:09 PM
“I’m tired of people playing dress up trying to sing a more country song.” Sturgill Simpson
07-28-2018 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Modern country is so over the top cliche and cloying I’m not surprised if the artists turn out to be huge phonies.
07-28-2018 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
But remember that their conservative audience is to a large extent also engaged in a kayfabe as well: suburban upper-middle-class white dudes pretending to be country while driving their shiny new F-150 to the range to fire a few rounds from their tricked-out AR-15, those dudes are largely the people buying pricey front-row tickets to Toby Keith concerts. At least with musicians there's a respectable tradition for artists to pretend to be more authentic/hardcore than they really are. We all accept that rappers and rock stars are not necessarily the characters they pose as, so why should country be much different.
I think in general rockstars engage more in drugs and sex, common rock music themes; than country music stars engage in drinking and driving down a dirt road so that he can go **** the pastor's daughter, common country themes.

I agree that rap is as fake as country.
07-28-2018 , 03:08 PM
Stitches is the only real artist out there.

07-28-2018 , 03:27 PM
Here's a good article about country music and booze, and how most artists are faking it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.8ea49724d4b4
07-28-2018 , 03:33 PM
Every young country song:
  1. pickup truck
  2. cold beer OR whiskey
  3. pretty girl in red dress OR cutoffs
07-28-2018 , 03:45 PM
I saw Eric Church at the Grand ole opry a couple of weeks after the Vegas shooting and he was legitimately broken up about it. Hardly even sang. He spoke about two empty chairs near the front that had been purchased by a husband and wife who were at the Vegas festival and we're supposed to be here. The husband didn't make it out of Vegas alive. The same woman who was on CNN after the shooting. He did a heartfelt rendition of hallelujah. Don't think he even sang any of his own songs.

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07-28-2018 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fuluck414
I saw Eric Church at the Grand ole opry a couple of weeks after the Vegas shooting and he was legitimately broken up about it. Hardly even sang. He spoke about two empty chairs near the front that had been purchased by a husband and wife who were at the Vegas festival and we're supposed to be here. The husband didn't make it out of Vegas alive. The same woman who was on CNN after the shooting. He did a heartfelt rendition of hallelujah. Don't think he even sang any of his own songs.

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I disdain country, but I went to the Opry once. Really was a unique experience and gave me a musical spiritual awakening.
07-28-2018 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by aarono2690
I think in general rockstars engage more in drugs and sex, common rock music themes; than country music stars engage in drinking and driving down a dirt road so that he can go **** the pastor's daughter, common country themes.

I agree that rap is as fake as country.
But I think that with rap you can readily appreciate that mostly everyone knows that the artists are posing to some degree. Saying it’s a dirty trick when country guys fool everyone is maybe not giving the audience enough credit for being in on the ruse. Esp when the audience members themselves are playing up how country they are.

Like, if you have a suburban kid acting hard and going to hear a rapper rap about the many people he has have killed, I don’t think it’s as much people fooling each other as it is artist and audience creating a shared fiction.
07-28-2018 , 04:43 PM
I will say that I feel the country audience and conservatism in general attracts a certain type of person who is hesitant to change. Guy I used to work with really just wanted to hear the exact same jokes/stereotypes over and over again. Solid conservative voter. Just didn't like the fact that things were different now compared to 5-10 years ago.
07-28-2018 , 06:18 PM
“Former” Nazi


07-29-2018 , 11:49 AM
I hate country music, but most of my friends like it(they're all very progressive, more so than me). Still I went to Stampede one year and got a sweet black cowboy hat and a revolver spinning belt buckle on a connecting flight in Dallas in the airport(never been to Texas otherwise) so now whenever I'm dragged to a country concert or bar I wear those things and look like the biggest country fan in the place. Gets awkward when random people start talking to me about the band or country music and I have no idea of any of the songs the band plays or really the names of any country song. Even more awkward when say I'm more of a Wu-Tang fan
07-30-2018 , 12:37 AM


Even USA Today has had it with Republicans and their bull****.
07-30-2018 , 12:38 AM
I just saw an billboard for something called "Tailgate Fest" with Toby Keith as the headliner but Nelly as the 2nd or 3rd act. That's pretty cool, assuming no one dies.

07-30-2018 , 12:40 AM
Nelly is from the sticks IIRC, and most pop-country these days samples heavily from hip hop.
07-30-2018 , 12:44 AM
St. Louis = sticks itt.
07-30-2018 , 01:56 AM
Take a wrong turn coming out of the Arch park and it gets pretty sticky pretty quick...
07-30-2018 , 02:05 AM
No one disputing E. St. Louis itt. But it's not the sticks. Sticky? Sure. Different things.

Also Nelly gives shoutouts to KC. So he can't be all bad. And for the record I love Nelly even though I'm genetically programmed from birth to hate St. Louis.

Btw the best KC rapper is Tech N9ne.





You can see him and his crew in the front row (to the left of home plate) of the 2015 WS game 1 (about :05) as Alex Gordon ties the game in the 9th with the greatest home run in Royals history.



Better view: https://www.mlb.com/video/must-c-gor...un/c-526415283

Last edited by suzzer99; 07-30-2018 at 02:14 AM.
07-30-2018 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Every young country song:
  1. pickup truck
  2. cold beer OR whiskey
  3. pretty girl in red dress OR cutoffs


(from a great comedy special)

      
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