You're killing my action, Phill.

"The libs won't let us say X anymore!" whine is the GOAT litmus test for racism. Even better than "Some of my friends are black!"

HAHAHAHAHA

ITT: Textbook definition of intellectual dishonesty.

Does anyone have any idea what sdturner and Low Key are fighting about?

Anyway, Wookie, bahbah's Dad would totally charge back whatever Paypal charge showed up on his statement if he tried to pay you, so I don't feel bad telling the thread that people have polled Obama vs. Cain:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...ck_voters.html

Obama 86%, Cain 6%. Cain only has 44 percent to go!

I posted this in LC, but it probably makes more sense here

When you think your only problem is the way you phrase your ****ty positions, and not the ****ty positions themselves, you're not doing it right.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/r...-election.html

The crux of your problem is not that you "come off as a bunch of angry white men", it's that you are mostly a bunch of angry white men. (but with binders full of women!)

Hillary, the next POTUS, the first female POTUS. That woman is boss. She bitch slapped that Bengazi inquisition.

Pretty sure it is about sdturner not realising that "the party of Lincoln" remains Republican in name only and around the Civil Rights Era effectively the Republican party flipped.

I mean that whole meme "the party of Lincoln" screams "hey, ****o, we had a leader who took off your chains, ignore the fact we call you workshy shucking and jiving welfare queen scum, aight dog".

Low Key is 100% correct here. He specifically said "social conservatives" for a reason. The Republican party that ended slavery was not the party of social conservatives. They were the party of social progressives and social radicals. Why is this hard to understand? Clearly the passage of the 13th through 15th Amendments were by no means conservative undertakings.

I mean, that's a fight that we always have where racists embarrass themselves by like, trying to score some weird gotcha where their current racism is OK because their party has at one point included Abraham Lincoln, but it seems like there were a bunch of posts deleted or something.

Nah, I haven't deleted anything ITT.

What part of the definition of racism do you not think I understand? How was my post racist? I am in for the bet, but making a bet before we know if he is running seems a bit silly.

Please show a credible source that says dems are the more educated voters. I posted a source, in the thread I was referring to, that said the opposite.

How is that possible? Are republican voters just pretending to be less educated?

What year are you referring to that he was hated by the black community? Was there any other AA running for the same office that year? Are there sources confirming he was hated?

It's ridiculous to suggest I am saying that an AA can't evaluate a candidate by his/her race.

I'm down for booking a grand now. Obviously in order for either of us to win he has to run for something. But if he does, I'm cool with booking it now.

As for why your post is racist, let's talk it through. Why do you think Herman Cain will get 50% or more of the black vote should he run against a white guy?

First off we are looking at a poll of 126 African-Americans. Not 126k polled, but 126 AA people polled.

FLY, please go back and read what I wrote. Everyone else understood that it would be Cain vs. the next white male democrat that runs for president and not versus one of the most loved presidents in the black community EVER.

Please explain the whole bit about my dad and paypal please.

It was an exit poll that asked people who they voted for and what their level of education was among other things. The republicans had higher education levels by no small margin.

IIRC, Dems usually lead in those with graduate degrees and those who didn't finish high school, GOP leads in those who graduated high school but not college. Bachelors degree people are roughly even.

I think for a few reasons, one of the biggest being that I believe that the repubs will win the next presidency. I also think that some black voters that are on the fence will vote for a black guy over a white guy in the same way some white people would do the opposite and the same way that some women would vote for a female candidate over a male that she sees as equal.

I thought I saw that repubs largest margins of victory and smallest margins of defeat were in graduate & bachelors degrees where the same was true for the dems w/ ppl who didn't finish HS and those that finished HS w/ no college.

A lot of these polls are unavailable now, but I don't think Cain was doing better than Romney among black Republicans in the primary.

jfc let's all just post what we think is true without actually looking at data

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president

cliffs: dems do better with the highly educated and the less educated, republicans do better with people in the middle

What percentage of blacks and whites vote this way, do you think?

bahbahmickey- I don't believe you would be able to pay the grand that you will owe Wookie by yourself.

This is going to blow your mind, but Cain's minstrel act is offensive to black people. I know, he's black, they are black, how can there be an issue? But Hillary or whoever would eat him for lunch with black voters. Romney was pretty much the least racist serious GOP candidate this primary season and he still got crushed. Colin Powell would get significant black support against a Democrat, but at this point Colin Powell pretty much is a Democrat, he couldn't win a GOP primary.

You know how you think Paul Ryan is being clever by talking about "takers" and "makers" but takers aren't people on Social Security and Medicare because those are earned entitlements and ****? Homie that code has been cracked. Black people can go to the Drudge Report too. They can see you liking and sharing that Obamaphone video on Facebook.