So you also disagree with the basic content of the memo? Or do you just disregard it because it was written by someone you see as a shill (an accusation I am not disputing)?

I guess the generic talking points of his you are referring to are something like this:

Gov's plan to regulate X will increase consumer cost of X.

Gov's plan to regulate X will mean worse quality X for American consumers.

Gov's plan to regulate X will hurt competition and innovation and move us toward a monopoly.

The American people are being misled about what the government's plans are to regulate X.


Is that a fair summation? Do you take issue with all of those statements or just some?

These three are clearly bull**** fear-mongering fed directly to his corporate-shilling brain by monied interests.

The last one is up in the air afaik because I don't know how much info that is being proposed is publicly available. Most transparent administration ever and all that.

Just out of curiosity, do you think those corporations you referenced have much of a role in writing the actual content of the 300 pages of regulations?

As for most transparent administration ever. Yes, I agree. It's amazing something like this can't even be public.

Seems pretty spot on. The idea that the government getting involved in the internet will turn out differently than every other time the government has gotten into an industry like this is a fairy tale.

The entire reason that we have the problems that we have today in the broadband industry is because the government got involved. I don't know how people think getting the government more involved is going to solve the problem.

Number 3 that you quoted that you say is "up in the air" is what dictates most of 1 and 2. Putting extra taxes aside, less competition and innovation gives consumers worse products at higher prices.

itt we're still pretending that there is "competition" for high speed internet

I don't think anyone here is under that illusion.

So pretty much cliffs...

The real issue is that ISPs pay to exclusively use the infrastructure the utilities create and this is what allows for the monopoly. If these deals didn't happen and comp was opened up, the market could potentially sort this out.

Opposition to this would be
1. Big ISP, like monopoly
1. Utilities, like exclusive deals with big ISP

Pretty much what I took from the article

fail

This is the first step in taxing fapping sites. REVOLUTION!

CNBC has an article titled with the click bait headline "Ex-FCC chief shocked by Obama's net meddling". Of course if you read the article it basically just says Obama is for net neutrality.

Ex-FCC chief shocked by Obama net rules meddling

Whenever the cable and telecom industry is bitching about something, you know it's going to be a good deal for the American consumer. It's disgusting how this article, at least the headline, was obviously bought and paid for by an industry group.

Step 1: Hire away the ex-commissioner of the FCC to represent your lobbyist group. I'm sure this possibility was never discussed *while* he was commissioner of the FCC.

Step 2: Get him to go on CNBC and trash current FCC plan.

Step 3: Somehow get CNBC.com to create a clickbait headline that has very little to do with the actual article, but is guaranteed to rile up anyone who doesn't like Obama. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102450337

Step 4: Link the article on the top page of drudge, along with a bunch of other articles bashing net neutrality. I wonder how much those cost? Is this really a hot-button issue for conservatives?

Step 5: Sit back and watch as dozens of unpaid internet trolls come over from drudge to gunk up the otherwise usually fairly sober CNBC.com comment stream (read the comments on the article).



Chiefsplanet is all riled up about net neutrality today even though their level of understanding on it is basically zero. Awesome.

Yeah, with this and the climate change denial revelation, we're getting a good glimpse of the conservative ideals of corporatocracy. Businesses should control government, truth belongs to the highest bidder, etc

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/02...utrality-rules

Man, that NYT article sure has a lot of self-congratulatory BS from victorious lobbyists for giant corporations talking about how this shows that lobbyists for giant corporations don't pull all the strings.

baller

http://arstechnica.com/business/2015...l-competition/

Additionally, states can no longer ban cities from setting up their own broadband networks.

Is broadband really slower in Europe than in USA#1? Every time I see a Euro post a Speedtest result it is much faster than anything I've ever gotten, especially upstream.

I would imagine how one defines "Europe" matters greatly.

It's a good day to browse the Fox News comment sections.

Like 90% of the comments are complete bat**** crazy. I think most people didn't even read what the subject of the story was, they just saw Obama did something and then hilarity ensued.

Can somebody give a brief explanation on what exactly the going ons today means?

Dude it's amazing. I love it. You guys gotta browse comments on this one:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...used-meddling/

Top notch Obooma comments. A few good ones:





"Save America, shoot liberal terrorist democrats on site."

"One in the chest, one in the head. That's how you deal with socialists."

"We deserve what is coming for not stringing up this traitor already."

"Okay, I'm all for a mass execution of liberal-socialist-regressives now."

"Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when we really need him?"

"IMPEACH ALL NAZIS INCLUDING BARRY."

"Perhaps Mullah Obama wants to apply Sharia Law over the internet soon."

"Obama is a Traitor and should pay the ultimate price"

"Will someone please shoot this sambo already."

"I look forward to seeing Seal Team 6 repelling down on the white house..."

"Barry just found another way to fund his terrorist buddies."

"The whole purpose of it is to stifle conservatives and their freedom of speech."

"Communist tyranny at its best...next our bullets will be gone by executive action and nothing will be done about that either."

"Now we have government controlled internet and Obama using executive action to take bullets away from us....a civil war is coming and coming faster and faster."

"This government wants to control everything plus implement Shria Law."

"Never have I prayed for a lone wolf more than now"

"It's all about the money and goverment interference. All Obama wants is control for his 2016 takeover."

"Again, our king lies and takes more power! And who is stopping him? No one!"

"Add ObamaNet to all the freebies the Illegals get today!"

"With Obama the incompetent, it's all about liberal control, and liberals are the evil in America."

"0bama had the American flag on Air Force 1 replaced with the ISIS flag."

"Obama the Tyrant."

"We have problems in this country. It's obama, democrats, black racists and muslims."

"Get Your Guns Ready and If You Don't Have One You Better Go Get One"

"Won't be long now. We won't be able to get the unfiltered news from overseas. Just the state mandated and approved news. Just like China."

"Give a demorat a heart attack...tell them they got to WORK for that welfare check..."

"We are rapidly losing our freedoms! A few states need to secede!"

"Obama is a traitor"

"We need a sweeping cleanse of this government...or rather...this tyranny!!"

"Obama will be using his new assumed power to shut down conservative websites like Drudge."

"What good is the Internet if you get killed from one of Obama's ISIS terrorist buddies?"

"The past 6 years shows we are not the country we used to be. The best generation of Americans (1940s) would NEVER have allowed a communist leader to destroy us."

"Thank God that the 2nd amendment will stop Obama's plan for complete collapse of America."

"Better get a gun before they take that away next. Then it is over people our freedom will be gone."

No. Believe it or not right-wing media is lying by characterizing Europe as somehow worse than the US in an area where it clearly isn't. Crazy right?


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