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Old 11-10-2014, 07:16 PM   #126
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Re: The Tragic Death of Net Neutrality

the party of freedom is against net neutrality now?
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:25 PM   #127
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Big government telling businesses what to do.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:38 PM   #128
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Lol, what?

goddammit, this is such an expert tweet
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:23 PM   #129
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Lol, what?

Next Cruz tweet: Net Neutrality is phase 2 of Obamacare, meant to implement the individual mandate. That is, all heterosexual male homepages will be redirected to gay dating websites and they will be forced to choose a man to date. The Internet should not be used for special privileges for gays.
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:28 PM   #130
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i lol'd so hard at this tweet from this guy

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Old 11-10-2014, 08:35 PM   #131
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Next Cruz tweet: Net Neutrality is phase 2 of Obamacare, meant to implement the individual mandate. That is, all heterosexual male homepages will be redirected to gay dating websites and they will be forced to choose a man to date. The Internet should not be used for special privileges for gays.
That's too long for a tweet, tho.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:25 PM   #132
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Guys, Obama appointed Tom Wheeler. As usual, his words mean jack ****. The FCC will do as it pleases (stall).
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:23 AM   #133
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Ted Cruz needs to post here
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:58 AM   #134
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goddammit, this is such an expert tweet
this, dude has gotten the facebooks confirmed furious
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:01 AM   #135
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I have a feeling Cruz may actually turn out to be a pretty elite troll. I suspect this won't be the last time we see him gettin dem jimmies confirmed rustled.
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:12 AM   #136
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Cruz is definitely an elite troll. He's not stupid.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:56 PM   #137
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Guys, Obama appointed Tom Wheeler. As usual, his words mean jack ****. The FCC will do as it pleases (stall).
Yeah, well Congress made him do all that stuff somehow. This is how Obama really feels.
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Old 11-11-2014, 06:59 PM   #138
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Yeah, well Congress made him do all that stuff somehow. This is how Obama really feels.
Yeah!

*cognitive dissonance*

GO, TEAM, GO!

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Old 11-12-2014, 01:08 AM   #139
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Yeah, well Congress made him do all that stuff somehow. This is how Obama really feels.
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Huddled in an FCC conference room Monday with officials from major Web companies, including Google, Yahoo and Etsy, agency Chairman Tom Wheeler said he preferred a more nuanced solution. His approach would deliver some of what Obama wants but also would address the concerns of the companies that provide Internet access to millions of Americans, such as Comcast, Time Warner Cable and AT&T.

“What you want is what everyone wants: an open Internet that doesn’t affect your business,” a visibly frustrated Wheeler said at the meeting, according to four people who attended. “What I’ve got to figure out is how to split the baby.”
*Sad Trombone*

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-the-internet/
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Old 11-12-2014, 01:10 AM   #140
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Odd question but do other countries have a pay to play system? Off the top I can't find anything about it.
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Old 11-12-2014, 03:46 AM   #141
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they have a "monopolies are bad" system, and that seems to have worked out very well for them
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Old 11-12-2014, 05:16 AM   #142
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Odd question but do other countries have a pay to play system? Off the top I can't find anything about it.
Here's a discussion of net neutrality in Europe.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/04/bu...ules.html?_r=0
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:21 PM   #143
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Don't we already have net neutrality? I go to youtube, amazon, and netflix all the time. The question here is treating the internet like a utility. It would be nice to have a monthly payment that does not change by some hidden schedule.

The only company that does not support net neutrality is google because they track you.

Most of all the high speed providers are not involved in content in a big way. Here again only google with youtube and google wire is the only one doing this.

Can't this be solved by just preventing connection providers being involved in content?

The only website I have problems with is the TWC plugin site.

http://www.netindex.com/download/2,1/United-States/

USA is #12 on this list and rising and since we started with all this old equipment it is understandable.

heil Obama!

Do you really want a utility running your internet I have been waiting 2 months for the liberal city of Los Angeles to give me the ok to turn on my solar.

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Old 11-12-2014, 09:27 PM   #144
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Don't we already have net neutrality? I go to youtube, amazon, and netflix all the time. The question here is treating the internet like a utility. It would be nice to have a monthly payment that does not change by some hidden schedule.

The only company that does not support net neutrality is google because they track you.

Most of all the high speed providers are not involved in contect in a big way. Here again only google with youtube and google wire is the only one doing this.

Can't this be solved by just preventing connection providers being involved in content?

The only website I have problems with is the TWC plugin site.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:54 PM   #145
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Don't we already have net neutrality? I go to youtube, amazon, and netflix all the time.
lol steelhouse

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The question here is treating the internet like a utility. It would be nice to have a monthly payment that does not change by some hidden schedule.

The only company that does not support net neutrality is google because they track you.

Most of all the high speed providers are not involved in content in a big way. Here again only google with youtube and google wire is the only one doing this.

Can't this be solved by just preventing connection providers being involved in content?

The only website I have problems with is the TWC plugin site.

http://www.netindex.com/download/2,1/United-States/

USA is #12 on this list and rising and since we started with all this old equipment it is understandable.

heil Obama!

Do you really want a utility running your internet I have been waiting 2 months for the liberal city of Los Angeles to give me the ok to turn on my solar.
Yeah, this issue is totally about overregulation, and not in any way about curbing exploitative monopolistic practices

I find it pathetic how a lot people are approaching this topic by spouting off some typical petty partisan nonsense.

Democrats: Obama is a scumbag for appointing Wheeler. His words mean nothing. If you're cheering for him because of this, you suck and should feel bad about yourself.

Republicans: Stop spouting off nonsense because you feel obligated to oppose this because Obama supported it in a speech. This doesn't give you justification to pretend net neutrality is about MORE REGULATION. It is not. It is about basic fairness-motivated principles and about preventing monopolies from ****ing everyone over.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:46 AM   #146
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We are in the situation today BECAUSE of the government. How would more government be the answer to get out?

I don't like the idea of massive monopolies getting to throttle the internet anymore than the next guy. But getting the government involved is a BAD idea. It is only going to make the situation worse, not better.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:57 AM   #147
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The government is involved either way, so it's not a choice of more or less government but between versions of property rights that will be enforced by the government. In a Net Neutrality world the government simply won't enforce any contracts that stipulate data is treated differently and in a non Net Neutrality world they will. Which is why this whole "more government vs less government" bit is flimsy. Though if you want to go that route Net Neutrality is deregulation relative to non Net Neutrality.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:01 AM   #148
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We are in the situation today BECAUSE of the government. How would more government be the answer to get out?

I don't like the idea of massive monopolies getting to throttle the internet anymore than the next guy. But getting the government involved is a BAD idea. It is only going to make the situation worse, not better.
So if you completely deregulated internet providers, it would get better? Do you think Comcast has your best interests in mind?

Has government involvement ruined our access to clean water, clean air, roads, mail, etc?

I encourage anyone who shares the un-nuanced opinion of 'more government = bad' to spend some time in developing countries with small governments to get an idea of how good we have it here with our 'big government'.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:05 AM   #149
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreyd...rtner=yahootix

Jeffrey Dorfman argues the other side.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:09 AM   #150
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Net Neutrality Is A Bad Idea Supported By Poor Analogies
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This is a bad idea for the same reason that only having vanilla ice cream for sale is a bad idea
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