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02-26-2015 , 07:57 PM
not really surprising, this has been the conservative news method for some time:

02-26-2015 , 07:57 PM
Quote:
"Get Your Guns Ready and If You Don't Have One You Better Go Get One"
The Random Internet Commenter That Inexplicably Capitalizes Each Word Of Every Sentence Is Always My Favorite
02-26-2015 , 08:01 PM
lol fox news

02-26-2015 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by schu_22
The Random Internet Commenter That Inexplicably Capitalizes Each Word Of Every Sentence Is Always My Favorite
If you never read past headlines you might think this is how people are supposed to write.
02-26-2015 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
No. Believe it or not right-wing media is lying by characterizing Europe as somehow worse than the US in an area where it clearly isn't. Crazy right?


Average Download Speeds by Country
We need to exercise our second amendment rights on the dip**** who chose those graph colors.
02-26-2015 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
We need to exercise our second amendment rights on the dip**** who chose those graph colors.
I make maps for a living AND I'm red-green colorblind, so I understand your pain. Scale is correct with slow colors being red (i.e. more restrictive) but they should just use a single color gradient. Also, grey isn't even on the ****ing scale.
02-26-2015 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Step 1: Hire away the ex-commissioner of the FCC to represent your lobbyist group. I'm sure this possibility was never discussed *while* he was commissioner of the FCC.

Step 2: Get him to go on CNBC and trash current FCC plan.

Step 3: Somehow get CNBC.com to create a clickbait headline that has very little to do with the actual article, but is guaranteed to rile up anyone who doesn't like Obama. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102450337

Step 4: Link the article on the top page of drudge, along with a bunch of other articles bashing net neutrality. I wonder how much those cost? Is this really a hot-button issue for conservatives?

Step 5: Sit back and watch as dozens of unpaid internet trolls come over from drudge to gunk up the otherwise usually fairly sober CNBC.com comment stream (read the comments on the article).



Chiefsplanet is all riled up about net neutrality today even though their level of understanding on it is basically zero. Awesome.
Comcast owns CNBC. Remember to add that the parent company is probably paying his salary.
02-26-2015 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lycosid
If you never read past headlines you might think this is how people are supposed to write.
I lol'd.
02-27-2015 , 03:04 AM
About time for the rule change.

This ruling does two major things:
1. no more ISP extorting content providers.
2. a side effect of making high speed internet access an utility: now municipalities have the obligation to ensure high speed access, giving them more legal leverage to force AT&T, Verizon, and cable company's hands.
02-27-2015 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Dude it's amazing. I love it. You guys gotta browse comments on this one:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...used-meddling/

Top notch Obooma comments. A few good ones:





"Save America, shoot liberal terrorist democrats on site."

"One in the chest, one in the head. That's how you deal with socialists."

"We deserve what is coming for not stringing up this traitor already."

"Okay, I'm all for a mass execution of liberal-socialist-regressives now."

"Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when we really need him?"

"IMPEACH ALL NAZIS INCLUDING BARRY."

"Perhaps Mullah Obama wants to apply Sharia Law over the internet soon."

"Obama is a Traitor and should pay the ultimate price"

"Will someone please shoot this sambo already."

"I look forward to seeing Seal Team 6 repelling down on the white house..."

"Barry just found another way to fund his terrorist buddies."

"The whole purpose of it is to stifle conservatives and their freedom of speech."

"Communist tyranny at its best...next our bullets will be gone by executive action and nothing will be done about that either."

"Now we have government controlled internet and Obama using executive action to take bullets away from us....a civil war is coming and coming faster and faster."

"This government wants to control everything plus implement Shria Law."

"Never have I prayed for a lone wolf more than now"

"It's all about the money and goverment interference. All Obama wants is control for his 2016 takeover."

"Again, our king lies and takes more power! And who is stopping him? No one!"

"Add ObamaNet to all the freebies the Illegals get today!"

"With Obama the incompetent, it's all about liberal control, and liberals are the evil in America."

"0bama had the American flag on Air Force 1 replaced with the ISIS flag."

"Obama the Tyrant."

"We have problems in this country. It's obama, democrats, black racists and muslims."

"Get Your Guns Ready and If You Don't Have One You Better Go Get One"

"Won't be long now. We won't be able to get the unfiltered news from overseas. Just the state mandated and approved news. Just like China."

"Give a demorat a heart attack...tell them they got to WORK for that welfare check..."

"We are rapidly losing our freedoms! A few states need to secede!"

"Obama is a traitor"

"We need a sweeping cleanse of this government...or rather...this tyranny!!"

"Obama will be using his new assumed power to shut down conservative websites like Drudge."

"What good is the Internet if you get killed from one of Obama's ISIS terrorist buddies?"

"The past 6 years shows we are not the country we used to be. The best generation of Americans (1940s) would NEVER have allowed a communist leader to destroy us."

"Thank God that the 2nd amendment will stop Obama's plan for complete collapse of America."

"Better get a gun before they take that away next. Then it is over people our freedom will be gone."
Pure gold. I don't think I've ever seen a better self-parodying list of ******ed Fox News memes.

I especially like how conservative patriotism in 2015 has become synonymous with supporting the Premier of Russia and wanting to assassinate the POTUS.
02-27-2015 , 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatkid
Dude it's amazing. I love it. You guys gotta browse comments on this one:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...used-meddling/

Top notch Obooma comments. A few good ones:





"Save America, shoot liberal terrorist democrats on site."

"One in the chest, one in the head. That's how you deal with socialists."

"We deserve what is coming for not stringing up this traitor already."

"Okay, I'm all for a mass execution of liberal-socialist-regressives now."

"Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when we really need him?"

"IMPEACH ALL NAZIS INCLUDING BARRY."

"Perhaps Mullah Obama wants to apply Sharia Law over the internet soon."

"Obama is a Traitor and should pay the ultimate price"

"Will someone please shoot this sambo already."

"I look forward to seeing Seal Team 6 repelling down on the white house..."

"Barry just found another way to fund his terrorist buddies."

"The whole purpose of it is to stifle conservatives and their freedom of speech."

"Communist tyranny at its best...next our bullets will be gone by executive action and nothing will be done about that either."

"Now we have government controlled internet and Obama using executive action to take bullets away from us....a civil war is coming and coming faster and faster."

"This government wants to control everything plus implement Shria Law."

"Never have I prayed for a lone wolf more than now"

"It's all about the money and goverment interference. All Obama wants is control for his 2016 takeover."

"Again, our king lies and takes more power! And who is stopping him? No one!"

"Add ObamaNet to all the freebies the Illegals get today!"

"With Obama the incompetent, it's all about liberal control, and liberals are the evil in America."

"0bama had the American flag on Air Force 1 replaced with the ISIS flag."

"Obama the Tyrant."

"We have problems in this country. It's obama, democrats, black racists and muslims."

"Get Your Guns Ready and If You Don't Have One You Better Go Get One"

"Won't be long now. We won't be able to get the unfiltered news from overseas. Just the state mandated and approved news. Just like China."

"Give a demorat a heart attack...tell them they got to WORK for that welfare check..."

"We are rapidly losing our freedoms! A few states need to secede!"

"Obama is a traitor"

"We need a sweeping cleanse of this government...or rather...this tyranny!!"

"Obama will be using his new assumed power to shut down conservative websites like Drudge."

"What good is the Internet if you get killed from one of Obama's ISIS terrorist buddies?"

"The past 6 years shows we are not the country we used to be. The best generation of Americans (1940s) would NEVER have allowed a communist leader to destroy us."

"Thank God that the 2nd amendment will stop Obama's plan for complete collapse of America."

"Better get a gun before they take that away next. Then it is over people our freedom will be gone."
Is this real? I haven't been able to find any of those specific comments in the comments section of that article.
02-27-2015 , 01:28 PM
Well they'd be over a day old and there's 15k comments. I clicked see more about 10 times and only got to 5 hours ago.
02-27-2015 , 03:15 PM
Yeah maybe I just didn't go back far enough.

Jesus ****ing christ there's some wackos in there
02-27-2015 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Is this real? I haven't been able to find any of those specific comments in the comments section of that article.
Kos collected all of the most uprated comments. Definitely some gold in there.

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Hey 51% of you morons voted for him twice. You get what you get. And for those of you who stayed home and didn't vote for Mitt....up yours !
There goes Internet freedom. First thing will be no Fox News web site.

So I guess our first amendment rights don't matter.

There goes the Internet as we know it.

Are we living in North Korea??? Wait.. we must not... they at least control their borders.

The Fall of Rome

Obama is trash

I didn't realize that something needed to be "fixed". Leave it to the government to step in a fix something that didn't need to be fixed.

Take freedom one bite at a time and the country watches in silence.

Next he is after the bullets. How is it that we are putting up with this? I don't care what this guy's religion is or where he was born, it is too late to care about that, but I truly care that he is single handedly destroying the Constitution of the United States and for that he should be removed from office.

Venezuela did the same thing as they tightened down on their communist regime. Then when the GNB was arresting, raping, and killing student protesters, they blocked the Internet and social media accounts of dissidents who where uploading all the proof to Twitter and Facebook... And this was all last year, by the way.

The FCC just voted for government to sensor all content distributed onto the web. Prepare to be brainwashed with Liberal propaganda, and the word Freedom stripped from our vocabulary.

Thanks again to the uneducated voters who have laid out my children's and Grand Children's futures. Much appreciated.
02-28-2015 , 07:44 PM
Who has actually seen the new rules?
03-05-2015 , 08:46 PM
WaPo's Robert Samuelson with an amazing hot take on why net neutrality is totes not necessary:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...239_story.html

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Switch now to the Internet. It’s unclear what justifies new regulation. The FCC plan bars companies such as Verizon and Comcast — Internet Service Providers (ISPs) — from blocking any Internet connection. But there was never any support for this sort of censorship, and the agency’s press release contains no evidence that it is widespread. “It’s a red herring,” says Brookings Institution economist Robert Litan.
You guys all need to chill out. There's not going to be any "censorship" from ISPs. That's some red herring bull****. No evidence that that would ever happen.

Next ****ing paragraph:

Quote:
The real issue is who pays for new Internet investment. Do big users such as Netflix and Facebook bear some costs, or are these left to the ISPs — which shift them to the monthly bills of households? For example: In 2014, Netflix agreed to pay Comcast for smoother streaming of its videos. The open question is whether the FCC will permit these interconnection payments and, if so, at what level. But the FCC has weakened the ISPs’ bargaining position by requiring them to accept all comers.
03-06-2015 , 10:09 AM
Reading comprehension fail. There's a difference between blacklisting a site and paid prioritization.
03-06-2015 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
Reading comprehension fail.
well, you're half right

and also essentially claiming that a denial of service attack is not, in fact, denial of service
03-06-2015 , 12:08 PM
Republican legislator in the back pocket of Comcast, AT&T, Verizon introduces USA FREEDOM #1 INTERNET FREEDOM ACT OF FREEDOM & FLAGS act

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/1...utrality-rules

guess which side of the net neutrality debate it falls on?

Hint
Spoiler:
His corporate backers
03-06-2015 , 12:32 PM
So funny to read all these people, many of whom demand voter ID laws, say that this move is totally unnecessary because there isn't a measurable problem right this minute.
03-06-2015 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Anais
well, you're half right

and also essentially claiming that a denial of service attack is not, in fact, denial of service
No, I'm actually entirely right. If you are claiming that Comcast prevented users from connecting to Netflix over their network through denial of service tactics, please cite.
03-06-2015 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
No, I'm actually entirely right. If you are claiming that Comcast prevented users from connecting to Netflix over their network through denial of service tactics, please cite.
in a denial of service attack, one bombards a certain website/server/what have you with a large amount of traffic so that the service in question is unreachable/unusable.

in the case of netflix, the ISP refused to upgrade their backbone, which was effectively denying the service to paying customers of both the ISP and Netflix
03-06-2015 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Anais
Either a shill or a rube that's internalized every made-up republican talking point ever

Edit

Nope, shill was correct

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matth...ry_(politician)
Impressive background. You should have described him as an expert. Well informed people can disagree.
03-12-2015 , 04:43 PM
FCC releases Net Neutrality rules

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...trality-rules/

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§ 8.5 No blocking.
A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged,shall not block lawful content, applications, services, or non-harmful devices, subject to reasonable network management.7.Section 8.7 is amended to read as follows:

§ 8.7 No throttling.
A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged,shall not impair or degrade lawful Internet traffic on the basis of Internet content, application,or service, or use of a non-harmful device, subject to reasonable network management.8.Section 8.9 is redesignated section 8.19.9.New section 8.9 is added to read as follows:

§ 8.9 No paid prioritization.
(a)A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged,shall not engage in paid prioritization.(b) “Paid prioritization” refers to the management of a broadband provider’s network to directly or indirectly favor some traffic over other traffic, including through use of techniques such as trafficshaping, prioritization, resource reservation, or other forms of preferential traffic management, either (a)in exchange for consideration (monetary or otherwise) from a third party, or (b) to benefit an affiliated entity.

285(c) The Commission may waive the ban on paid prioritization only if the petitioner demonstrates that the practice would provide some significant public interest benefit and would not harm the open nature of the Internet

1. New section 8.11 is added to read as follows:

§ 8.11 No unreasonable interference or unreasonable disadvantage standard for Internet conduct.

Any person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged, shall not unreasonably interfere with or unreasonably disadvantage(i) end users’ ability to select, access,and use broadband Internet access service or the lawful Internet content, applications, services, or devices of their choice, or (ii) edge providers’ ability to make lawful content, applications,services,or devices available to end users. Reasonable network management shall not be considered a violation of this rule.
03-12-2015 , 04:47 PM
+1 to those

      
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