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Originally Posted by champstark
goofy, that article reads to me like those people are upset they drive Audis instead of Ferraris and want to take things away from people who actually need help in order to make themselves "upper middle class" or whatever bull**** they think they want
Who in that article was (figuratively) driving an Audi? I'm willing to take the author at her word re: the anecdote about her sister-in-law that she genuinely works hard and could (should?) benefit more from the social safety net. At least in the context of this article, I don't think taking anything
away from poor people was part of the equation. But to bobman's point, yeah, I guess it's hard to do otherwise:
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
The big thing you cannot really do for the middle class is give them expensive handouts because there is no one to realistically pay for them. The poor can't do it because they have no money, and the rich have money but won't give it to the government.
Trump has stumbled upon a winning message Republicans can use to win elections now: "white working class, we haven't forgotten you and we'll make you great again". Sure, it's a straight up lie, but it won this election and it will probably win some more if liberals don't come up with economic appeals to these people*, and because it's not so much our style to just straight up lie to everyone about what we'll do for them, we should probably try to make them grounded in reality.
*disclaimer: since I probably can't say this without it seeming like I'm endorsing the notion that this election was 100% about economic anxiety and not at all about the racism and xenophobia, I'm not saying that, but it does kinda seem like a winning economic message can bring some of middle America back
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
if you're telling me that there are these middle-class voters who aren't comfy with professional women, gays, people with degrees, and think the poor have it too easy
I mean, the author doesn't disagree:
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The election shows that sexism retains a deeper hold that most imagined.
But like, winning elections is better than losing them, no? We have to figure something out, and it doesn't have to compromise our core values, but it does have to a.) explain why we lost without resorting to glib "**** these idiots" conclusions b.) find policies that will make them vote for us.