The Tragic Death of the Democratic Party - Page 236 - Politics and Economics

This is a silly response. Name Democrats specifically who are neoliberals and look at the definition of the word. I have even seen Krugman called a neoliberal on 2p2. Which is extremely LOL. People have whittled down that word to nothingness.

Something here is lol for sure.....now your saying the author obviously wasn't referring to actual defention of neoliberal b/c someone on the interwebs called Paul Krugman a neoliberal..

Please stop.

01-13-2018 , 06:02 AM

#5877

aflametotheground

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From what i understand the tea party was a reaction to the wallstreet bailout. I think they view it as immoral to use other peoples money to help those (in this case companies) that mess things up for themselves.

Thats on the grass roots, among top politicians i assume theres a more tainted picture because they are ofc corrupt.

01-13-2018 , 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by thenewsavman

No. U.

Seriously. The author is just some dude who has opinions and then uses words in terrible ways and I guess people like you eat it up.

01-13-2018 , 12:00 PM

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JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon said in an interview on Friday that the Democratic Party does not have a strong candidate for the 2020 presidential election.

“The thing about the Democrats is they will not have a chance, in my opinion.*They don’t have a strong centrist, pro-business, pro-free enterprise person," Dimon told Maria*Bartiromo on Fox Business' "Wall Street Week."

Cory Booker is a Wall Street favorite so I wonder why he didn't count him.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...idate-for-2020

01-13-2018 , 12:12 PM

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01-13-2018 , 12:14 PM

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“The thing about the Democrats is they will not have a chance, in my opinion.*They don’t have a strong centrist, pro-business, pro-free enterprise person

..and they shouldn't. Those are all euphemisms that describe a Republican, not a Democrat.

01-13-2018 , 01:37 PM

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The second part: The return of the trust busters

http://theweek.com/articles/725483/return-trustbusters

I didn't like this one as much because it doesn't go into as much depth about the political/economist environment right now and the rise of empiricism in economics and the movement in the anti trust.

It's been on the rise though. The think tank team Open Markets was recently pushed out because it praised the European fine against Google for anti trust and the main funder for the parent think tank of Open Markets was, of course, Google.

It's most epitomized by the online debates between Matt Stoller and Matt Bruneig where you get the sense that the trust busters imagine a capitalism of small businesses ovewatched by strong regulation. Small in the sense of using anti trust to break up companies whose power allows them undue control over the market or government.

01-13-2018 , 01:47 PM

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The third part: Social Democracy

http://theweek.com/articles/726093/b...cial-democracy

Most of the article is explaining the theoretical underpinning of Nordic social democracy and its pros and cons as it could be applied to the US

01-13-2018 , 01:51 PM

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The fourth part: The rise of American socialism

http://theweek.com/articles/733970/d...ican-socialism

It talks about the very small socialist presence in America and the growth of the DSA. It covers some socialist proposals like Medicare for all without co-pays, state run businesses, public housing, etc.

01-13-2018 , 02:45 PM

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Thanks Huehue. You're top of the list of people who post articles that are actually worth reading.

01-13-2018 , 06:10 PM

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DeuceKicker

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Counterpoint: Every time I see his username, I pronounce it differently in my head

01-14-2018 , 05:25 AM

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Second counterpoint: those Ryan Phillips articles are fine, but in Part I, he cites Kalecki's Essay on Politics and Ideology which remains so concise and so relevant today that I would argue you can skip the four part series, just read Kalecki and your understanding of the world and contemporary politics would be just as well served.

Obviously we can all make time for both but in sum, read Kalecki.

01-15-2018 , 10:06 PM

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How Progressives are turning Alaska purple

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...cs-2018-216304

Quote:

Alaska remains a gun-loving and tax-averse state, defined by its military bases and love of hunting. It has two Republican senators and a Republican congressman. But the state is changing. In the past four years, Alaska has raised its minimum wage, legalized recreational*marijuana and passed the strongest universal voter registration bill in the country. Governor Bill Walker—an ex-Republican who has the support of organized labor and most liberals—and the House majority coalition are publicly advocating the introduction of a statewide income tax, a move long thought impossible in Alaska’s notoriously libertarian political climate.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...cs-2018-216304

01-16-2018 , 04:06 PM

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What the Christ is the matter with the democrats? What the hell is wrong with them?

01-16-2018 , 04:38 PM

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DeuceKicker

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I refuse to believe that's real.

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01-16-2018 , 08:12 PM

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Didn't Hillary have something like that?

Edit: oh yea

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Hillary Clinton personally OK’d a plan to have protesters dress in Donald Duck costumes to disrupt Donald Trump’s campaign rallies, a stunt that led to a clash with Donna Brazile, former chair of the Democratic National Committee.

https://nypost.com/2017/11/07/clinto...e-a-good-idea/

The GOP did it too

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As former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton criss-crosses the country to promote her new memoir “Hard Choices,” the RNC is deploying a person in a massive, orange squirrel costume to attend the events and deliver the message that “another Clinton in the White House is nuts.”

The so-called “HRC squirrel” even has its ownTwitter handle*and*donation page*filled with groan-inducing puns like Clinton is “trying to hide her record on #Benghazi the way I hide acorns” and “Don’t squirrel around, vote Republican.”

https://www.google.com/amp/www.msnbc...t-squirrel/amp

F*ckin' wierdos

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01-16-2018 , 09:15 PM

#5892

suzzer99

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What in the actual ****?

01-16-2018 , 09:20 PM

#5893

AllTheCheese

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GG is right about going HAM on the Dems who voted to reup the surveillance state. The dude with the list of Republicans who deserve a gold star is LOL and can eat a dick.

01-16-2018 , 09:29 PM

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98% fine with voting to reauthorize (limited) domestic surveillance powers. Good to see you guys focused on the leaky faucet as the house burns down.

01-16-2018 , 09:38 PM

#5895

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Amazingly I can walk and chew gum at the same time.

01-16-2018 , 09:49 PM

#5896

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Originally Posted by simplicitus

98% fine with voting to reauthorize (limited) domestic surveillance powers. Good to see you guys focused on the leaky faucet as the house burns down.

You don't see any inherent risk to allowing someone like Trump to weaponize the NSA, FBI and CIA surveillance powers against domestic political enemies? Because the first step - purging any non-loyals from those agencies - is happening as we speak.