The Tragic Death of the Democratic Party - Page 216 - Politics and Economics

"Marching onward" gets 0 relevant hits on google and idk from the screenshot what that handle even is because I can't seem to find the account, don't think it's worth quitting everything over

10-12-2017 , 11:10 PM

#5377

whosnext

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https://twitter.com/OnwardMarchDC

10-12-2017 , 11:20 PM

#5378

AllTheCheese

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Why is that "white feminism?"

10-12-2017 , 11:23 PM

#5379

iron81

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Because the tweeter is trying to tie Hillary and her supporters to white supremacy.

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10-12-2017 , 11:29 PM

#5380

AllTheCheese

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Literally the first person I think of when I think of an anti-Sanders Hillarycrat is Joy Ann Reid.

10-12-2017 , 11:30 PM

#5381

sylar

Ivan Drago's homeslice

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Wouldn't be surprised that's another troll farm account

10-13-2017 , 05:36 AM

#5382

sportsjefe

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Oh you all think none of this is real... Ok, give it a week.

10-13-2017 , 08:46 AM

#5383

champstark

aka starkwired

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Rumors that Kevin de Leon, leader of the state Senate, considering a challenge to Feinstein

Hope he gets a fair chance. Top 2 thing means it would be him vs. her in the general, right? Maybe Republicans hate her enough to vote for him (I doubt it)? Seems like it would be difficult, even if he can get a majority of Dem support.

10-13-2017 , 09:09 AM

#5384

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsjefe

Oh you all think none of this is real... Ok, give it a week.

I mean, real in what way. Will some of the brain worm Hillary dead enders be doing some weird **** in a week? Yes, of course, those people have been doing weird **** nonstop since the election.

Will they succeed in creating a #resistanceresistance? No.

10-13-2017 , 10:20 AM

#5385

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Kevin de Leon is not exactly unknown and unhated, but I think a lot of republicans do hate Feinstein enough to vote against her. You'd think they wouldn't because she's more conservative, but that's too much thinking.

10-13-2017 , 10:42 AM

#5386

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Prediction. In 1 week lots of people will hate hillary clinton.

10-13-2017 , 02:05 PM

#5387

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Yeah, the general election is Feinstein vs. De Leon assuming they finish top two in the primary. I haven't really thought about the effect of Republicans voting in a D vs D election, but I suspect (and hope) that microbet is right.

10-13-2017 , 07:58 PM

#5388

DeuceKicker

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Can someone give me a quick ELIF rundown on why Feinstein is so bad? I think I saw something a while ago about her voting with The Dotard more than (m)any other Ds, but I'm not sure.

10-13-2017 , 08:27 PM

#5389

eyebooger

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 58,714

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeuceKicker

Can someone give me a quick ELIF rundown on why Feinstein is so bad? I think I saw something a while ago about her voting with The Dotard more than (m)any other Ds, but I'm not sure.

Considering her state, she's not nearly liberal enough. There is no goddamn reason in the world that a senator from California should be voting for Mike ****ing Pompeo.

Also, I think it's time for some new blood in politics anyway. She's been there 25 years. She's 84. It's time for someone else.

10-13-2017 , 08:51 PM

#5390

microbet

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Feinstein is strongly liberal in some ways and not in others. She a law and order war hawk - at least for a democrat.

Here's an example:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.046d8031d618

Quote:

Twice in the past year, President Obama has set plans to get U.S. spy agencies out of secret missions that had come under harsh public scrutiny: killing militants with drone strikes and stockpiling the phone records of U.S. citizens.

And twice, those plans have run into opposition from a seemingly unlikely source: Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a former Senate colleague of the president, a California Democrat and, as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, increasingly an obstacle to Obama’s push to revamp intelligence programs.

10-13-2017 , 09:07 PM

#5391

goofyballer

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She's pro-UIGEA, pro-surveillance state, pro-war, pro-drug war (well, probably, she was anti-legal pot in California) - just an awful centrist Dem who California can and should do way better than

10-13-2017 , 09:38 PM

#5392

DeuceKicker

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Thanks, all. I live in CA so I'll have to do some research before the election

10-14-2017 , 10:08 AM

#5393

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,419

Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Feinstein is strongly liberal in some ways and not in others. She a law and order war hawk - at least for a democrat

This is probably the reason she has such staying power. Yes, the state is 65 percent blue, but the Senate race normally comes down to two dems. Her hawkishness tends to get her the majority of the rep vote in the generals.

10-14-2017 , 01:46 PM

#5394

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

but the Senate race normally comes down to two dems.

That's relatively new, and Feinstein's last election in 2012 was the first time it was used. The second place finisher in the primary was generic R (who got, like, 13% in the primary, 38% in the general) and no heavy hitters stepped in on the D side.

10-16-2017 , 01:51 PM

#5395

goofyballer

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de Leon officially announced:

Watching this I suddenly think this is going to be way harder for Feinstein than we thought. He's a legit politician who represents California's current identity wayyyy more than she does.

NYT had a brief interview with him, nothing groundbreaking but:

Quote:

Q: Do you think Senator Feinstein is out of touch with the Democratic Party?

A: I don’t want to get into her right now. I promise you I will give you more as we go on in the next few days or next few weeks.

Q: Do you think that her age — 84 — should be an issue?

A: Absolutely not. Her problem isn’t age, but where she stands on the key issues that the voters care about. Ideas and values and priorities.

10-19-2017 , 11:43 AM

#5396

microbet

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...ousted-n812126

DNC ousting prominent Ellison supporters.

Quote:

Those who have been pushed out include:

Ray Buckley, the New Hampshire Democratic chairman and longtime DNC official who ran against Perez for chair before backing Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn. Buckley lost his spots on the Executive Committee and DNC Rules Committee.

James Zogby, the president of the Arab American Institute and prominent Sanders backer, is no longer co-chair of the Resolutions Committee and is off the Executive Committee, a spot he has held since 2001.

Alice Germond, the party’s longtime former secretary and a vocal Ellison backer, who was removed from her at-large appointment to the DNC.

Barbra Casbar Siperstein, who supported Ellison and Buckley, was tossed from the Executive Committee.

10-19-2017 , 12:35 PM

#5397

hobbes9324

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Man, that article is depressing.

MM MD

10-19-2017 , 01:48 PM

#5398

ASPoker8

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LOL at thinking that actual reform and progress can be achieved by supporting the D party instead of the R party. Donna Brazile added to the rules committee. This is real life. Corrupt Obama/Clinton centrist faction of D party just openly mocking anyone who dares to want good things to happen.

burn it all down

10-19-2017 , 01:57 PM

#5399

Louis Cyphre

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I hope we can put to rest the notion that the DNC isn't rigging it in favor of their preferred candidates.

10-19-2017 , 04:17 PM

#5400

hobbes9324

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Read it again. More depressing than the first time thru - it reads like a goddam Onion article. The Dems are a bunch of useless turds, and the GOP worse.

MM MD

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