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09-06-2017 , 06:46 PM
RE: Lestat and Regulations

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/u...e.html?mcubz=0

In Lestat's world hurricane released carcinogens are acceptable because boooo regulations.
09-06-2017 , 08:26 PM
WaPo has a fantastic takedown of Verrit

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Democrats need to figure out how to stop losing. That’s going to require a rethinking of party politics as usual; the last thing the situation demands is a site designed to validate people’s instinct to keep thinking the same way they always have. It’s also going to require communication along the left side of the spectrum, but that’s exactly what Verrit is designed to “protect” Clinton voters from.

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Verrit has taken all the worst parts of today’s liberalism and turned them into a website. It is a safe space for middle-of-the-road Democrats, seeking to shelter them from conversations that would help far more than they hurt, based not on any actual issue of identity but instead on their preference for a candidate who was defeated 10 months ago. It’s only going to help them lose again.
09-06-2017 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Heal thyself WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.bb7b9842dd7b
09-06-2017 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
master- Lestat is not a Bernie Bro. Bernie Bros are left wing. He's doing a bit that a few other right wingers have done, they signal positive **** about Bernie because he didn't get the nomination as a concern troll because they think it makes their Trump vote the result of "independent thinking".
ya the policies and views that lestat has supported are like the furthest thing from bernies policies. I mean, itt alone he has repeatedly beat the drum for fiscal conservatism and lowering corporate taxes. I dont see how he can turn around and claim to prefer bernie when a huge part of bernies campaign was to go after billionaires and corporations.
09-06-2017 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Not sure where else to put this, more like Some Hope Left rather than Tragic Death.

GOP Congressman in WA-8 is retiring:

https://patch.com/washington/sammami...eelection-2018

Minor good sign for the Democrats that they're winning a lot of these candidate recruitment / throw-in-the-towel pre-contests. Democrats have won that district at the Presidential level since 1988 but have never held that Congressional seat. A bunch of similar GOP retirements in competitive districts would portend a wave election.
Oh **** yes, I am so happy to see this. **** Reichert, this should almost certainly be a flipped district now.
09-06-2017 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Oh **** yes, I am so happy to see this. **** Reichert, this should almost certainly be a flipped district now.
The primary for that seat will be incredible
09-07-2017 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
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Originally Posted by awval999
Lol that was good. I'd read page 133.
09-07-2017 , 07:51 AM
09-07-2017 , 01:43 PM
Without a Verrit code, I don't know how I'm supposed to verify that this screenshot is real.
09-07-2017 , 04:25 PM
Why can't Hillary go the **** away?

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09-07-2017 , 09:18 PM
who?
09-08-2017 , 09:27 PM
09-08-2017 , 10:26 PM
This Verrit site is incredibly stupid. I don't see the need for its existence.
09-08-2017 , 10:40 PM
I just 5 minutes clicking around Verrit and I'm legitimately angry that people are going to make money off of something this stupid.
09-08-2017 , 10:46 PM
I guess at best it's like a much dumber version of Vox's 'explain the news' concept, (which they've mostly abandoned)? Except instead of starting with a question or topic to work through, they start with a mostly randomly selected quote (that they tag with a unique number that doesn't do anything?) then blog about it for a minute.
09-08-2017 , 10:53 PM
At least the tagline makes it clear from the start that it's nothing more than a giant circlejerk for Hillary Clinton voters.
09-08-2017 , 10:55 PM
That's a lot of mad about a site some of us would have never heard of if you guys weren't up in arms.
09-08-2017 , 11:02 PM
It's more that Clinton pimped it out during a time where she is also pimping a 500+ page book she wrote blaming everybody but herself for losing the election. Given the content of the page she's advertising and her current attitude, it seems like she's going, "See all the things I was right about by going to this website! Bet you wish I was POTUS!"

Now that she lost, she needs to retire and stay retired. Her presence solidifies Trumpers more than anything else in this world. The only way she can empower the Democratic Party is to no longer be a part of it.
09-08-2017 , 11:19 PM
Well, I mean, it seems like the attention for that site comes from people upset over it. As someone who did vote and support Clinton I have no intention of keeping up with her any longer as she is no longer a pony in any race. I'm gonna throw out a wild guess and say that most Clinton voters/supporters are looking for another candidate than her.
09-09-2017 , 01:43 AM
ya she really needs to stfu and go the **** away. speaking as a hillary clinton voter
09-09-2017 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
ya the policies and views that lestat has supported are like the furthest thing from bernies policies. I mean, itt alone he has repeatedly beat the drum for fiscal conservatism and lowering corporate taxes. I dont see how he can turn around and claim to prefer bernie when a huge part of bernies campaign was to go after billionaires and corporations.
You guys are just too simple minded to realize that a). It's possible to care about more than one thing at a time, and b). There is almost always more than one solution to a problem.

I'm for lowing corporate tax. Not the uber wealthy like most every hard right conservative GOP. Raising personal taxes on the 1% will force them to share more of the profits with their employees who's backs their wealth was built on. As it is, they get away with paying part time slave wages to their workers and hoard all the profits for themselves and shareholders. Increasing their tax rate will give them incentive to share the wealth.

Who do you think is going to spend more and stimulate the economy? The worker who gets an extra $10-$20k a year? Or the billionaire who add another billion to his wealth? Of course, it's the employee with an extra $10k in disposable income.

It's ironic that the ultra libs here accuse me of parroting right wing talking points when that's ALL everyone here does on the left! You are closed minded to anything that isn't repeated over and over in this useless echo chamber you've got here. At least I think for myself. You guys are literal puppets for leftist propaganda and your answer to anyone who disagrees with you is simply to ban them because you're too brainwashed to have a reasoned conversation about real remedies to problems.
09-09-2017 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sylar
an "unknown" 74 year old socialist who refused to be called a democrat for 30 years all of sudden wanted the endorsement of at least some dnc leadership and pouted when he LOST the primaries in every way possible.
You've got to be kidding. He was kept off ballots and intentionally left out of the conversation until sometimes a week before the primaries. The media wouldn't give him the time of day. The Dems didn't want another contender because in their minds Clinton was the Democratic nominee right from the start.

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he also tacitly accepted the benefit of clinton conspiracy theories circulated on twitter, not to mention by wikileaks. oh, and 20% of his supporters didn't show for her anyway.
You're a ****ing fool if you think this. If anything, Sanders went out of his way to be soft on HRC. He could've hit her a lot harder on emails and many other things. HE'S THE ONE who said enough with the emails already. Let's talk about real issues.
09-09-2017 , 01:57 AM
09-09-2017 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
You guys are just too simple minded to realize that a). It's possible to care about more than one thing at a time, and b). There is almost always more than one solution to a problem.
lol ok, go on...

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I'm for lowing corporate tax. Not the uber wealthy like most every hard right conservative GOP. Raising personal taxes on the 1% will force them to share more of the profits with their employees who's backs their wealth was built on. As it is, they get away with paying part time slave wages to their workers and hoard all the profits for themselves and shareholders. Increasing their tax rate will give them incentive to share the wealth.
most of the 1% make their money via capital gains, where lowering corporate tax rates will only put more money in their pockets. this paragraph is absolute gibberish

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Who do you think is going to spend more and stimulate the economy? The worker who gets an extra $10-$20k a year? Or the billionaire who add another billion to his wealth? Of course, it's the employee with an extra $10k in disposable income.
uhh, yes, the avg worker spends most of his money instead of saving it like the top 1% do

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It's ironic that the ultra libs here accuse me of parroting right wing talking points when that's ALL everyone here does on the left! You are closed minded to anything that isn't repeated over and over in this useless echo chamber you've got here. At least I think for myself. You guys are literal puppets for leftist propaganda and your answer to anyone who disagrees with you is simply to ban them because you're too brainwashed to have a reasoned conversation about real remedies to problems.
you really just have no idea what you're talking about, and its hilarious that you get all defensive about people saying you parrot right wing talking points all the time when thats literally what youre doing in. this. exact. post. HERP DERP LOWER CORPORATE TAX RATES TO CREATE JOBS AND RAISE WAGES

just stfu with your disingenuous bull****, you are either incredibly dishonest or entirely clueless. i lean towards the former
09-09-2017 , 03:05 AM








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Originally Posted by Pew
a look at five decades’ worth of government wage data suggests that the better question might be, why should now be any different? For most U.S. workers, real wages — that is, after inflation is taken into account — have been flat or even falling for decades, regardless of whether the economy has been adding or subtracting jobs.
oh look, no correlation whatsoever between lowering the effective corporate tax rate and wage growth amongst average workers. looks like the top 1% are doing a lot better tho- so once again, shut the **** up with this dumbass republican bull****

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