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The Tragic Death of the Democratic Party The Tragic Death of the Democratic Party

09-02-2017 , 12:02 PM
Trump sincerely holds old white guy culture war grievances. When he says that people will be able to say Merry Christmas again, he means it.
09-02-2017 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
They want you to fear the MSM, even though thats ****ing bull****, and you swallowed it like a large mouth bass.
I didn't swallow anything. The difference between MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, is MSNBC and CNN doesn't lie or make up facts like Fox. But if you don't think they're biased and spin like crazy you're just as dumb as I am on the opposite end. They are all about profit and ratings just as much as Fox is. They gave Trump hundreds of millions in free advertising for Christ sake!

Is that a right wing talking point? Is it a right wing talking point that the liberal media played right into Trump's hands? Trump's a buffoon, but one thing the guy knows how to do is keep the spotlight on himself. Instead of ignoring this dopey billionaire birther running for president, they hung onto every dumb thing that came out of his mouth. They couldn't get enough! Instead of holding him accountable on important stuff like, I don't know... What's he hiding that he won't release his tax returns?, his fraudulent university that robbed widows, vets, and the elderly, his countless conflict of business interests worldwide, using codes to discriminate against renting to blacks at his properties, his fraudulent charities, his ZERO qualifications at any form of governing....

Instead of simply ignoring him or demanding answers for any of that, they focused on what YOU wanted them to and mostly care about. PC and identity politics! Whether unwitting or pure genius, Trump had them running in running in circles. They couldn't even finish covering the last racist, sexist, or un PC thing he said, before he'd say some other dumb thing and they were off to the races with that because... Ratings! Do you really not understand that our dear liberal media NEVER fully held him accountable on any matter of substance and instead, went with ratings to talk about what people like you wanted to hear for their own profit? This guy doesn't make it out of the primaries in the 60s, 70s, or before the profit only news media began.

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You know what? I voted for Bernie in the primary, and when he lost, completely and totally fairly, I pulled up my big boy panties and went out to my community, and went onto the internet, and said "Hey, lets ****ing rally together and pull the lever for Hillary, BECAUSE ITS THE RIGHT ****ING THING TO DO."
Yeah, I did that too among my friends. But YOU know what? I just saw you post about what a terrible person Feinstein is! It was SHE that worked her ass of to defeat Sanders! That didn't piss you off just a little? That didn't make you think wtf is going on in this Democratic primary? That it wasn't really a fair system? That they never envisioned anything but an HRC candidacy? And now you're going to fight for such a system and call me names because I pulled my allegiance from it?

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YOU, on the other hand, along with thousands of other Bernie Bros, swallowed the ****ing Fox hook, went out to your communities and the internet, and bitched and moaned and ****ing cried that "Oh, Ill vote for her, but I cant believe I have to.
You're damn right! Without Dems like Feinstein sabotaging Sanders just think of where we might be right now. Instead of being well on our way to single payer healthcare, repealing Citizen's United, free college, redistributing the wealth, etc., we're gonna spend the next 3.5 years worrying whether this guy's stupid enough to nuke NK, helplessly watching him dismantle programs and regulatory bodies like the EPA, meals on wheels, and watch the rich get richer, while the poor get poorer, not to mention already having racism run rampant now.

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And you were just a ****ing puppet for the GOP for 5 ****ing months, and you don't get to come here and say that WE were the ****ing reason that you decided to vote for the Republicans in perpetuity going forward, because it wasnt ****ing us.
See, I think it's just the opposite. YOU were the ****ing puppet for the GOP because you and the liberal MSM played right into Trump's hands. You couldn't stop talking about race and identity politics. OMG Trump's a racist! He's a sexist! Blah, blah, blah. Even though those things are all true, it's NOT what you should've been focused on. You should've been focused on his tax returns and why he wouldn't release them and not changed the subject until he was held accountable. Then turn to not HIM being a racist, but his company engaging in discriminatory practices.

Again, you care too much about shaming people for being racist and what you should be doing is shaming the racist culture.

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It was because you were a child who got your toy taken away, and couldnt do the adult ****ing thing of shutting your mouth, and cheering on the person who would have been 8095487945370974534539743 times better for this country than what we ended up with because she wasnt the shiny new ****ing toy you were drooling over at the store shelf, and instead was a hand me down from your older brother. So you looked at the hand me down, and you looked at the pile of cat **** in the corner and were told to pick one to play with, and you moaned and cried and said THESE TWO THINGS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME! WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH! And now you're covered in cat ****.

YOU made the decision to act like a child. Dont ****ing pin it on anyone else.
Thanks Dr. Phil.

Last edited by Lestat; 09-02-2017 at 12:36 PM.
09-02-2017 , 12:39 PM
I dont understand why you would want Bernie so much when he went against your fiscal conservatism. He would of redistributing the hell out of the wealth and created more regs. More then Hillary.
09-02-2017 , 12:41 PM
Do you think I work for the media, dumbass?
09-02-2017 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Hey I wonder what it is about Diane Feinstein and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz that would make Lestat confuse them for one another. HMMMMMMMMMMMM
The fact that I don't follow politics for a living and/or am not smart enough to know the things you guys do simply from my cursory reading of the news. You guys are experts. I'm not gonna be able to hold my own information-wise with a guy who has 54,000 posts on politics.

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Donald Trump talked about Sanders getting cheated more than Sanders did, so yep, once again Lestat is explicitly echoing Trump stump speeches.
Sanders had too much class and yes. Even though he thinks it, I suppose he didn't want to fracture the party further. I don't have his grace.

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This is why it's so hard for people to believe you voted for Clinton! You keep on vaguely saying you oppose Trump in the abstract but on every ****ing issue you and he see eye to eye.
The difference is I talk about Sanders treated unfairly because I think he was. Trump says it to divide. But I can see how this is a Trump talking about that I happen to agree with. But I'm NOT agreeing with it because of anything he said!
09-02-2017 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
I dont understand why you would want Bernie so much when he went against your fiscal conservatism. He would of redistributing the hell out of the wealth and created more regs. More then Hillary.
I'm for a FAIR system above all else. I've said I'll go all in on socialism if that's what it takes. I'm just sick of the corruption. It's permeated so deeply into our political system that it can't be wiped out by continuing the status quo for running this country.

There's nothing wrong with regulations if instituted fairly and for the common good of all. I don't feel that's the case with many of the regulations we have now.
09-02-2017 , 12:57 PM
Still does not make sense. Bernie was not getting rid of regs, the ones you think are fair or not. He was going to add more. Many more.
09-02-2017 , 12:57 PM
Lestat has the same #feelings about regulation as the typical republican spambot.

Your mask is slipping again.
09-02-2017 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Still does not make sense. Bernie was not getting rid of regs, the ones you think are fair or not. He was going to add more. Many more.
Billionaire crooks literally stole their wealth due to a rigged political system. Sanders wanted to redistribute that wealth and move towards a more economic parity in society. I really don't care how many regulations that takes! But I don't think you understand any more than I do what the effects of many of our current regulations have or why they even exist in the first place. They're not all about clean air and energy. Many corporate giants lobby for more restrictive regulations to stifle their competitors.

I know. Here I go again with Trump/conservative talking points.
09-02-2017 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Lestat has the same #feelings about regulation as the typical republican spambot.

Your mask is slipping again.
What is your expertise when it comes to lobbying and regulations? Do you even have any ideas about which new ones should be created or taken away? Or do you just like to jump in with useless posts?
09-02-2017 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Do you think I work for the media, dumbass?
You're complicit enough that you may as well.
09-02-2017 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
What is your expertise when it comes to lobbying and regulations? Do you even have any ideas about which new ones should be created or taken away? Or do you just like to jump in with useless posts?
You need to go back to SMP and stop concern trolling itt. It's obvious given your litany of conservative talking points you're not arguing in good faith.

You're the person making useless posts. Here's an example...

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I don't feel that's the case with many of the regulations we have now.
This is just a conservative talking point you threw out there. The quote is a useless point. You and other concern trolls who derp it up don't bother specifying which regulations you have problems with (I'm sure you will embarrass yourself if you do). Rather you just have #feelings based off your AM radio station personality.
09-02-2017 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
What is your expertise when it comes to lobbying and regulations? Do you even have any ideas about which new ones should be created or taken away? Or do you just like to jump in with useless posts?
Lol, that's a big ask for someone who has not shown he has any idea what he's talking about.
09-02-2017 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
You're complicit enough that you may as well.
Uh, I think you may want to think through this line of argument before endorsing it.
09-02-2017 , 02:09 PM
Lestat you absolutely would never have voted for Sanders, your stories would've told you he was going to give hardworking suburban white people's money to his Money Hoarding Friends (with unnecessary big government regulations) and lazy blacks to buy their votes, and just like how one Milo Youtube convinced you that sexism was a SJW hoax you'd have voted for Trump.
09-02-2017 , 02:12 PM
Like Lestat it's so weird how you keep falling back on "aw shucks I don't know nothin' 'bout nothin'" act, but your view of the social safety net as a Democratic ploy to buy black votes while keeping them poor isn't Trump rhetoric, it's Klan rhetoric. There's that weird undercurrent where you think people like me are screaming racist at nice white Stans who are just "ignorant of white privilege"*, but look at the **** you believe! It's a hell of a lot more than that, and you incredibly still think you're FARTHER to the left on social issues than them?!?!

I don't know where you picked it up, but that you didn't reject it says a whole hell of a lot about you.

*No one is ignorant of white privilege. It's not some fairy magic that only effects you if you believe in it. The "only slightly racist" white suburbanities that Lestat insanely believes are a victim class of Hillary Clinton's black nationalist campaign are not just aware of white privilege, they are FIERCELY DEFENSIVE OF IT. Thus they voted for Trump, who campaigned on protecting and restoring it.
09-02-2017 , 02:13 PM
Lestat definitely thinks the Waters of the U.S. Rule is a giant government land grab.
09-02-2017 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
Billionaire crooks literally stole their wealth due to a rigged political system. Sanders wanted to redistribute that wealth and move towards a more economic parity in society. I really don't care how many regulations that takes! But I don't think you understand any more than I do what the effects of many of our current regulations have or why they even exist in the first place. They're not all about clean air and energy. Many corporate giants lobby for more restrictive regulations to stifle their competitors.

I know. Here I go again with Trump/conservative talking points.
I dont know about all that but to me you seem to aline more with a libertarian like Johnson then progressive like Bernie. And Hillary is closer to libertarians then Bernie so im not sure why so much anger over him getting the shaft.

I want to believe you we go way back to the old RGT days, but its hard. Just dont make sense to me but things dont have to i guess.

Last edited by batair; 09-02-2017 at 03:06 PM.
09-03-2017 , 10:04 PM
round 779,383 of "boy they're really bad at this".



https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/s...84186291089408
09-04-2017 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
I dont understand why you would want Bernie so much when he went against your fiscal conservatism. He would of redistributing the hell out of the wealth and created more regs. More then Hillary.
ha

redistributing the devil out of that wealth
09-05-2017 , 04:55 PM


Abolish the Democratic Party.

ETA Twitter embedding seems broken again? Anyway:

Last edited by All-In Flynn; 09-05-2017 at 05:05 PM.
09-05-2017 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn


Abolish the Democratic Party.
Only the number.
09-05-2017 , 05:39 PM
Well now I feel like a dumbass.
09-05-2017 , 07:26 PM
how dare you not know something that was never explained to you before?!
09-05-2017 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn


Abolish the Democratic Party.

ETA Twitter embedding seems broken again? Anyway:
what is the problem with this exactly?

      
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