IIRC Dan came in here during the election, and basically only posted anti Hillary stuff, Fly called him out on it, rightly imo, and they have never gotten over that. It's one thing to be antiHillary now, but Dan was actively "campaigning" against Hillary after she had won the Dem nomination. That is inexcusable, imo. I don't give a damn if Hillary considered Kissinger a friend, that was not the time to have sour grapes that a pure, unadulterated leftist didn't win the nomination. He can blame Hillary for losing all he wants, but until he ****ing shows some shame or remorse for his actions, he deserves all the **** Fly gives him.

I think Bloomberg last year could have been "competitive" as a third party candidate in that he'd put up a solid percentage of the popular vote and have a shot to win some states, but it'd be cosmetic because he'd be drawing dead the entire time. His stance on guns is extreme enough that he'd be immediately cooked in 2A-heavy places like PA/FL/CO/VA/NC etc

thank god someone took of the mantle of defending even the most obvious bad things based on SEMANTIKES

I think we need to know Dan's handle on these sites.

ikes?

He is purity-testing candidates for economic progressiveness as that is what he considers to be the most important issue.

+1 and honestly this is entirely obvious if you're someone who is serious about understanding these things. Read Thomas Frank.

Look at how many grey hairs Obama had in 2008 versus 2016. I honestly don't care if someone pays him $4M for a speech. He earned that. Seriously.

Uh, Yglesias doesn't work for Slate anymore, but he harshly criticized Obama for taking the money for his current publication.

There's no hypocrisy or double standard there, those are different authors.

I mean, practically, Dan has literally never made a post about substantive policy, he exclusively posts about optics/partisan attacks/scandals/etc., and his ideological base for which scandals he seems to endorse are all over the place. He attacks Obama for Wall Street speeches and Hillary for child trafficking, that's a weird ****ing Venn Diagram.

The one common thread, though? That the attacks be on Democrats. The only attacks he's ever offered pushback on are attacks FROM centrist Dems, whether they be against Trump or Sanders. Which, again, weird ****ing Venn Diagram.

Yet your behavior towards those two groups is wildly, dramatically different. Still unclear what your explanation for that is. (also that first thing is something you TRANSPARENTLY adopted after the fact when people called you on your ****, Dan, back during the election when people called Trump supporters racist you got butthurt, and you still get really angry whenever anyone writes anything implying that the white male voting cohort contains a disproportionate amount of gullible racist cretins).

That's the thing, Dan, your media diet is so overwhelmingly right wing you don't even know how people meaningfully to the left of Clinton think or talk, so you instead come off like a ****ing Zero Hedge reader. The median 2p2 liberal reg is probably to the left of Bernie ****ing Sanders, this corporatist neoliberal shill language comes off as nonsense.

Like here's a terrible poker analogy.

If you want to bluff like you made a flush on the river, you might want to go back and make sure your action on the previous streets was consistent with a draw.

Na sorry homophobic DoubleBarrelFly, your posts aren't going anywhere, and your lies are documented.

Dan that longer post was probably the best thing you've written since you started this account but you really don't come off well in these exchanges with Fly.

The reason I wanted Dan's DKos handle was so we could hopefully settle this constant argument.

Yeah I was banned last time I called him out and my posts deleted, so probably just not good to engage. But hey there is going to be a happy ending I think.

You just said WAAF!

(p.s. DoubleBarrelJ stopped posting literally years before you regged, dude)

It took 5 minutes of Googling to find the Republican opposition research to nullify Democrats complaining about whatever Wall Street urchin they dredge out of the swamps next. No need for hypocrisy or double standard by the specific author. Just make a list of everyone whose saying it's not a bad idea, now, which will be most of the Democratic establishment (they want the same when its their turn) and wait until the next election.

Oh yeah it's absolutely terrible that any Dems are going to bat for Obama here, like, if you want to not care because he's never running for office again knock yourself out, but this **** like "he deserves to get paid" is just going to blow up in our faces. The GOP being the pro-business party is a big ****ing messaging advantage the Dems consistently refuse to use since they live in some bizarre ****ing bubble where being pro-business is a value neutral positive.

Remember, Dan's cover story is that he lurked for nine years before registering, which is why he's so familiar with obscure forum drama.

I was accused a number of times of being DoubleBarrelJ. Anyhow take it to the Ikes drama thread or whatever Politics 7.0 thread if you wish to attack me. We should be focused on those filthy BernieBros destroying the party in this thread.

Bernie is literally ruining democracy and he isn't even a democrat!

Elizabeth Warren is going to a terrible candidate to run against Trump. I said this last time but it is like rock, paper, scissor.

Trump needs to run against his opposite to give himself the best chance of winning. Hillary pretty much nailed that role.

Trump gets slaughtered by a Mark Cuban or Elon Musk or even a Matt Damon.

I don't believe HastenDan or Shuffle. They are really libertarians. They point out the hypocrisy of the left elitists as justification for their own lack of morality. Basically a Machiavellian position. "If Obama does $400k speeches then I don't have to pay for baby food for minority children".

Which is why everything is always

BUT HILLARY.

Imagine Musk vs Trump

I am infinitely richer than you. You are a fake billionaire. Where are your taxes dumbass?
You are a half wit. I am revolutionizing science. I am handsome and can **** Millennia better than you.

What does Trump do? Where is the counter? Ya see?

He says, "show me your birth certificate. " And it works this time. Musk was born and raised in Africa.