The coasts have the money and the media which gives them a significant boost in political power. The heartland is not giving up the structural advantage the gain by the EC and Senate.

Yea there's no way the EC is going anywhere.

We get a bajillion Reps because we have a bajillion people. The Senate having half the legislative power makes it so a person from a small state has way more power than a person from a big state. Way more.

Instead of being fair from one American to another you're being fair to lines drawn up on a map.

What are there 200 million eligible voters?

I want my 1 200-millionth of a say in the Senate instead of the lousy 1 1-billionth that I'm getting!

People should have rights, not states (or corporations).

If states want to do their own thing, and I think they should to a degree, they should do it with their state governments. There are plenty of state laws for them to pass.

We Californians should really divide up into 5 states with 6 million people each.

It did because a loosely bound bunch of colonies tried to get together and some of them wanted to make sure that the others couldn't abolish slavery, hence the electoral college and 3/5th representation, the Senate, and everything else they need to feel like slavery was locked in.

We're not like that now. I've lived in 6 different states and it was all essentially seamless.

That does sound a bit less high minded than a visionary idea of defending against far off (British) tyranny.

https://www.google.com/amp/fusion.ne...android-att-us

I think the democrats may actually have more chicken littles running around now than the republicans did after 2012. I didn't think that was possible.

I was shocked you thought HRC was a lock. You might be a slurper like the rest on the left but you seem much more intelligent in my opinion than the rest of them.

I would have thought you would have been more in line of thought with michael moores line of thinking.

Guess you are in the bubble too. Thought you could take yourself outside that bubble you are in and analyze from that perspective but that clearly wasn't the case.

I was totally comfortable that trump would win for months. Even after the ****** grabbing tape.

You are so out of touch like the rest. I'm disappointed dvaut.

Says the non nasal user who quoteth Ann Coulter.

In fairness, in the past few years they've lost nearly 1000 federal and state legislative and executive positions.

I wonder how that Lobster risotto will taste the next time he cooks it, probably very bitter.

this sounds better than secession. Step 1 is?

Lol, Wyoming are "minorities". F those assclowns. Amirite?

I'm sure sometime soon he'll remember that he's a rich white guy and it'll start tasting great again.

Losing to Trump, a candidate that they themselves called the "pied piper" candidate back in early 2015 and pushed to prop him up so they can "easily" beat him is a devastating loss they will never forget.

One, we elect President by electoral votes. So lettme help you there

Donald Trump: 306 votes
Hillary Clinton: 232 votes

You can't project popular vote to mean anything when the election isn't ran that way. It literally means nothing.

Two, the Senate numbers are asinine. You again realize that you are counting literally EVERY vote (6 million plus) in the People's Republic of California -- the state with highest population in the entire United States -- for the Democrats, right? Because the two candidates running were both Democrat right? Because no GOP candidate qualified in the primary.

Again doesn't matter, so let me help you with the math here

GOP: 52 Senators
Democrats: 46+2 Senators

You realize that LITERALLY the Constitution checks both the election of the President (electoral college) and the election of the Senators (each state gets 2 Senators regardless of population) against the tyranny of the majority right?

I know you are trying to make a point that the Democrats got more votes than the Republicans but you are making no point if you understand American history. Because you literally don't understand the bargain of the States, the Connecticut Compromise, when the Constitution was written. It was literally this bargain that checks the electoral power of California today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_Compromise

Do you not understand American history?

Anyway, the electoral college is never going away because it takes 38 states to amend the Constitution and the little states out West and the competitive Electoral states (midwest, Florida, NC, VA, et al) are never signing on.

You whining about this the the equivalent of whining why the sky is blue and wanting to change it.

It will just literally always be this way.

Awval is sad that microbet and einbert don't understand American History and the Constitutional compromise.

Is that sarcastic? Because the current system very clearly ****s Californians. Explain why a person living in Wyoming should have 60 times as much influence on a major body of the federal government than a person who lives in California.

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Times have changed. States are different. No more slavery. Etc.

Is your point that black people count as 3/5th of a person for apportioning representatives? That women shouldn't vote?

Of all the sad, pathetic, obviously bull**** arguments I've seen you Trumpers make over the past 18 months, defending the Electoral College has got to be among the worst.