There are lots of ways to solve (1) if you make a serious effort. (2) is a massive sin of omission. We certainly found enough money to spend for the general this season.

No I had doubts about her competence as a candidate. Everything with the Clintons is always SO messy. At a certain point you realize that it's them not just the environment. Also she lost to a black guy in a primary that was hers to lose.

She's corrupted through much more than just charity. Her husband and her have turned influence into a very good business for themselves. Considering her financial situation (the Clintons net worth went up a LOT between 2000 and 2016) she owed the American people radical transparency to prove she WASN'T dirty. No the fact that Donald was worse about it doesn't make that better.

lol. what did he misrepresent?

Fixed. But hey, wouldn't want reality to stop you.

Yeah endorsing a corporatist whose policies would do far less for the minority communities than those of Bernie Sanders is kind of shameful! But not as shameful as the misrepresentation of Bernie, which of course was the main point but you have somehow, somehow managed to completely omit repeatedly.

Not to mention the gerrymandering

Which is the direct result of Democrats treating local and state elections like they don't matter. Incredibly Republican run state legislatures gerrymander the crap out of states the have in control. You're talking about a symptom of the problem not the problem itself.

oh FFS! the charity's financials are available to look at. they released their tax returns, they made less than almost any fortune 500 CEO and gave 40+% of it in taxes and donations.

i sincerely hope you are an actual liberal socialist who just doesn't know which way is up from reading all the fake news and propaganda. the republican you are now implicitly supporting bragged about being worth and/or earning 10x more than the clintons, while paying none of it in taxes or donations to his fake charity, AND NONE OF IT IS TRANSPARENT!!!! yet, you decide that HRC wasn't transparent enough?

no, you being mad at the democrats doesn't make that better.

did you just think no one would actually watch the youtube you posted?

where does he misrepresent bernie?

he says hes never met bernie, but he met hilary.

sylar,

Member when Hillary lied to the public again and again about having turned over all work related emails?

Victor,

If you don't think that was an attack on Bernie's credibility among the minority community then I recommend reading back when that happened.

nope. but I remember when hasten dan lied to 2p2 forums over and over again about John Lewis. not a good look progressive bro.

Come again, which lies about John Lewis?

Though I am not surprised you are completely oblivious to the Clinton lies regarding her emails.

Didn't black people overwhelmingly vote for Hillary over Bernie? Yet here is this totally-not-stereotypical privileged white male Bernie supporter calling their votes and their support "shameful", LOL

john lewis never misrepresented bernie

Ta-Nehisi Coates on Bernie a year ago

And on his opposition to reparations

Incidentally Coates said a month later he would vote for Bernie, but here clearly lays out reasons why black people could (or even should) be skeptical of him. I'm sure HastenDan finds this all utterly SHAMEFUL tho.

Surely stories like this from NBC news have just been made up by ol HastenDan.

I guess when Cornel West says that John Lewis is a different man he is just being Racist I guess?

Yeah real crazy right there from ol Cornel. Heaven forbid others share similar views.

It is not like Lewis then had to kind of walk back those comments and 'clarify' them and claim he was 'misunderstood'. Well, the message was pretty clear.

There are LOTS of ways to solve the lack of turnout in midterms from the Dems target demographics? **** dude, call the DNC. Or just tell us one good idea that you believe the brass is not using or not aware of.

You don't "find" money, you raise it. Specifically, Hillary's campaign raised it. More specifically, there's good reason to believe that Hillary's campaign raised it because of Trump. I won't get into the legality of diverting funds from Hillary to other federal candidates -- it can be done to some degree, but there are limits. More significantly, though, Democrats as voters care more about national politics (noted above). That means that it is often more effective in presidential election years to get out the vote for the top of the ballot in order to bolster downballot wins. This is almost certainly why Dems were dominant in 2008-2010.

I think it seems clear your concern here is that John Lewis said those things with no regard at all for how that might not be politically advantageous to Bernie. That's not fair!

John Lewis doesn't owe Bernie Sanders a goddamn thing.

There's this insane whipsaw where Dan is STILL bitching about Hillary's emails(LOL he voted for Trump) and blames Hillary for losing to Trump.

Well, Bernie lost to Hillary. Maybe he should've ran a better campaign. A campaign that peels off Mike Tracey from Jim Webb might not be one that peels John Lewis off Hillary Clinton, ya dig?

If this was another person you might get the benefit of the doubt, but from you, this is incredibly patronizing to black voters. They aren't beholden to John Lewis' public statements.


Both you and BoredSocial aren't welcome in the Democratic Party. A coalition of post-policy nihilists is not going to beat Trump. We need real progressives willing to fight for their ideals.

You know, you would've thought so, but real real oddly attacking Hillary from the left and attacking Hillary from the right both check the same box in Dan's internal Friend Or Foe matrix.

Which is real weird for someone who claims his issue is about how Hillary put corporatism over real progressive values.

Also this is just an aside but when I use colloquialisms that's just to maintain a conversational style. What the **** is this ****?

HastenDan you goddamn genius you've somehow managed to convert blackface into ASCII text. This is cutting edge ****posting, you must have read that "how to make fake Black Twitter accounts" thing on 4chan.

FlyWf,

You had a meltdown and called for Clinton to be locked up. You have flipflopped everywhere from Clinton is a good candidate, to Clinton is great, to Clinton will be a terrible president, to Clinton will be a fine president and on and on. You repeatedly proved to be ignorant of the facts of the email situation, despite of course valiantly defending her time and again. Sorry if I don't value your opinion much.

Your corporatist neoliberal views are not welcome among liberals and progressives. Your hate-mongering is not welcome. Another angry white neoliberal keyboard warrior that has never participated in activism or stood up for the poor and underprivileged is not welcome. I am happy to not be associated with angry hate-mongers like yourself. And take Lena Dunham with ya.

Man, it is almost as if both the DNC and the corporate media were both in the bag for Hillary! ya dig?

Not like HastenDan here, who has determined from atop his progressive kingdom of being white (and in opposition to the voices of black intellectuals) that it's shameful for John Lewis to endorse Hillary.

LOL when you get fired up you lapse back into not capitalizing ****

Dude, like I've said from the start, we are a big tent and all are welcome. All you gotta do is adopt sincere progressive values. That's step 1.

Any time you feel up to that, the door is open. So you come back here with 1(one) post substantively disagreeing with someone to the right of you on policy, and this **** all ends. It's causing you so much consternation, and I'm telling you, it's as easy as that. A ton of regular posters here went from Ron Paul 2012 to Bernie 2016, and because they remained staunchly anti-Trump throughout it all, nobody calls them fake. Nobody calls them racist. Nobody accuses them of secretly voting for Trump. It's just that easy. One. ****ing. Post.