Not as smooth and admirably run an organization as the phony Koch founded and funded tea party.

Like y'all maybe missed it but Turner trying to install her anti-immigrant friend into a cushy gig is the sort of **** that people would MELT DOWN over if Tom Perez did it at the DNC. That's more than just not a good look, it's a bad look. You want to give ammunition to the ****ing centrists? You want to abandon the Latino vote? Even setting aside the principles at play it's garbage politics.

And Kucinich is a crank. I don't care if Bill Kristol agrees, a stopped clock is right twice a day. The issue that got him stomped out was taking money from Assad, for ****'s sake.

P.S. Bari Weiss almost certainly doesn't know who Nina Turner is what a weird collection of names.

Also on the subject Clinton endorsed Cuomo over Nixon Jesus Christ she learned ****ing nothing

Cuomo was butthurt after he did an event with Sanders and didn't get Our Revolution's endorsement (the idea of which is laughable). It's in the article.

I was implying that dessin is like those people and you are practically holding hands with him now. Fine, Nina Turner and Dennis Kusinich suck balls, but you of all people should be telling Max to **** off here.

I've told Max to **** off plenty of times but Turner and OR really do seem like they suck **** and we need to make the left more than just the personality cult of one 70 something Senator.

DSA has done a much better job with nowhere near the resources.

Sarah Jones at TNR is nobody's idea of an establishment stooge:
https://newrepublic.com/article/1484...nge-revolution

and she agrees with me. That article is troubling! Turner seems like an opportunist. Maybe she's not, and maybe her being an opportunist isn't bad if her cynical attempts to gain power also work as effective advocacy for left wing causes, but yikes that Figaro thing is just unforgivable.

More than hiring her anti immigrant friend they're fired or forced out a lot of good hard working people.

this is good news...

In semi-related news, Cuomo agreed to debate Nixon. Rumor is he will try to get like eight other candidates onstage and if not back out.

If somehow she can get him one-on-one I think she can do some real damage. Still not sure it will be enough in the long run, but who knows.

Those massive debate stages are great for the most well known candidate. 7 unknowns fighting each other to say something headlineable has a way of making the one guy who can afford to sit back look eminently reasonable. Romney perfected this in 2012.

Uhh...that’s the point. If progressives are winning without them the win% is irrelevant because we don’t know if the endorsement even matters

hmm, tv star whose breasts we may have seen vs establishment hack. Not entirely sure who the most well known is in that situation

I lived in that district for years. The incumbent is good and one of the strongest anti-Trump voices in Congress.

Yeah you could get like a 95% endorsement win rate if you stayed out of competitive races entirely, the raw numbers are completely pointless. The Tea Party beat an incumbent member of house leadership in Cantor beat a ton of well funded establishment Rs in tightly contested races(often to the detriment of the party, O'Donnell, Angle, etc.).

You don't even need to win, necessarily, if you turn a noncompetitive race into a competitive primary and force the establishment candidate to lurch left that's a victory for the cause. But just a 40% win rate means nothing out of context, you'd need like, pre-endorsement polling and complicated statistical analysis to know whether that's good or bad.

48% of dems don't know Cynthia Nixon enough to have an opinion about her, compared with 5 % for Cuomo. I promise you Nixon does not want a crowded debate stage, and Cuomo would prefer it.

https://poll.qu.edu/new-york-state/r...ReleaseID=2540

33 Democrats joined Republicans in voting to kneecap Dodd-Frank for all but the largest banks in the country

Too bad we don't have Hillary Clinton around to keep her promise to veto any legislation that would weaken Dodd-Frank.

Can someone explain why Rick Nolan voted for this? I about **** a brick when I saw it.

New study shows that political elites pick moderates, not out of a keen eye for political strategy but because they like moderates. They push moderates in swing elections as well as races that have no challenge regardless of the likelihood of winning.

https://theintercept.com/2018/05/23/...oderates-dccc/

Yeah, the whole pick a centrist stategically is at least 95% BS.

It's the "establishing the run" of politics.

Well yeah. Practically every faction picks whatever policies they prefer then claims those policies are the best way to win, regardless of truth.

Are they just picking "moderates" because those types seem to be the easiest to control/get to go along with whatever the party wants?

In a theoretical perfect world where both sides act in the best interest of the nation, picking moderates is the best strategy for the country. Of course, we don't live in anything remotely resembling that. I'm curious how much of this is big money influencing the Dems and how much is just a lack of serious thought on the matter.

Also, I'll admit I didn't read the article (one can only consume so many news articles in a day), but I'm curious if the GOP establishment is actually credited with picking moderate candidates or just the more moderate candidates. Like, Mitch McConnell is more moderate than a Roy Moore type but he's still a hardcore right winger.

Its all big money influencing the Dems and don't be codding yourself thinking otherwise.