Given that the origin of that was the Merchant of Venice which itself was pretty ****ing antisemitic, one best proceed with caution when using that phrase to describe a situation involving a Jewish person...

Fine, what do others feel is a more appropriate title?

full disagree that it was antisemitic. definitely was about money running politics. her apology could have better explained her meaning. and people are super quick to attack her because she's muslim, which is not in the least surprising because they expect her to not like jewish people. if i said the exact same "it's all about the benjamin's" no one would bat an eye.

The context was pretty gross also. It’s AIDS posting any way you look at it.

controversial

distasteful

potentially antisemitic

Something along those lines...

ftr I'm an MOT, the offspring of clergy, and formerly a tyg advisor and hebrew school teacher, so I'm really not trolling when I say that

it might actually be more antisemitic to refuse to distinguish the phrase itself from the archetypal character uttering it, as though branding it (the phrase/talisman, cue Indiana Jones nazi) upon the trope and thereby uniting them

+1 from another secular-ish American Jew who is super-not comfortable with much of Israel's conduct but is also very sensitive to and worried about the seeming rise of casual anti-Semitism.

"ilhan omar apologizes for factually correct tweet conveniently perceived as anti-Semitic by blazing hypocrites"

I'm not sure it ever is possible to use the phrase and just ignore anti-semitism, other than through pure ignorance I guess.

But, yeah, the context more than that. It was using an anti-semitic trope against people who were criticizing people marching in the streets chanting "Jews will not replace us" (and murdering people too).

Cool post implicitly admitting you will validate the Trump rule of never apology for anything.

Can we change the Trump thread to the Antisemitic Presidency of Donald J Trump or do only people who apology get such harsh treatment?

I think looking and guffawing at "only 3.5 million" shows a poor understanding of how influence is wieldee by various lobbying organizations.

Omar was clearly against money in politics, her critics want to paint her as anti semitic.

Ok, this is probably out of line in some way, but "clergy"?

How's my pony doing? The Intercept's top story right now is this:

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/11/...y-documentary/

Pro-Israel Lobby Caught on Tape Boasting That It's Money Influences Washington

I'd just take Ilhan out of the threat title completely.

I was completely unaware of the context of "pound of flesh" before this thread.

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I didn't use the phrase

I used it against people clamoring for the blood of the sick kid who drove his car into a crowd of people.

Were your parents cantors or something and you didn't think people would understand?

In case it's not clear from my earlier, diminishing quip, I don't think her tweet was offensive at all.

I wasn't offended by it, anyway, and I think to be offended by it you have to try/want to be.

Yes

Lol? Would you like a catalog of past President Trump Thread Titles?

If you don't think the pro-Israel* lobby's spending plays a significant role, consider that Bob Menendez is (a) a major Israel hawk (sponsored legislation to literally throw people in jail for a newly created felony of boycotting Israel), (b) a top recipient of pro-Israel lobbying dollars, and (c) was already indicted for bribery and formally admonished by the Senate for his pay-to-play activities in matters unrelated to Israel. Sure maybe his stances on Israel result from his deeply held principles, but these three facts taken together don't exactly inspire confidence.

*I'm using the phrase "pro-Israel" only because it's common at OpenSecrets and elsewhere. It refers to favoring the rightwing policy agenda of Likud and is not meant to suggest that every "pro-Israel" person (in the normal sense) automatically supports terrible rightwing policies.

What I get from this thread is that antisemitism continues to be alive and well amongst all political parties and political persuasions in 2019.

He was 20 years old.

Do you get upset about calls for retribution against other sorts of terrorists?

"Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel."

Nope nothing anti-Semitic there, or in her more recent tweets about all the politicians bought with that Jew money either!

Bad people on all sides!