How exactly is this measured?

I don't know about the US but I believe it's the case that first and second generation East Asian immigrants here in the UK are generally worked a lot harder at home than kids of most other cultural backgrounds.

Again, why is this a good thing?

I saw another prominent left-center person calling out the radical left just recently.

Good question.

Here is a report on that specific topic by the AARP

https://www.aarp.org/content/dam/aar....00092.001.pdf

42% 45-55y old caring for their parent among asian americans, vs 22% in the general population.

Is that enough?

More likely to talk with doctors about their old parents problems, more likely to help financially, etc etc.

Thank you for reminding me another thing that conservatives get right.

Working ethics as a pillar of personal success.

You sure that isn't because black people are economically disadvantaged?

I am not sure why you keep bringing up blacks. But anyway asians have far more "parent caring" attitude than whites too. Yes i think we should control for cofounding factors in general. And no, i don't think it's about blacks being particularly bad at something, especially because foreign born blacks on several dynamics seem to work out pretty well (and better than many white native groups fwiw).

Anyway talking with doctors doesn't require money, just effort and caring.

lolz

why lol? We are talking about going to visits with your parent and asking questions to doctors. Does doing so cost extras in the us?

The fact you actually took that at face value rather than as me taking the piss out of you is all the evidence anyone needs to conclude that you're incapable of critical analysis. You're just genuinely and generally ignorant.

Among the things you have no clue about seems to be which side of the political divide has been successful in developing and instituting maternity rights. Nor, apparently, that this has required state intervention into private contractual arrangements that a would-be-libertarian such as yourself surely considers sacrosanct.

it's "all ears".

Thank you for reminding me why I should never bother to engage you in honest discourse.

Goodbye far right troll.

Total war is a bit like the "far left".

Someone FTLoG please give Luciom the under title of animal torturer.

Far-left animal cruelty laws are the reason Trump won.

Were you dropped on the head as a child?

Is your mother a prostitute and did your fathers condom break?

Are you an embarrassment to the human race?

Luciom why do you hold so much animus against black people?

And Charlie brown attempts to kick the football again

This "family values" thing seems like simplistic morality. A lot of correlations but I don't know about the causations. The Nordics are very conspicuously "anti family". They have universal child care and mothers are expected to turn their children over to childcare in order to go back to work. Kids are taught self reliance to "weaken the dependant bonds between parents and children". The reasoning is that while depenance can be a good thing, it can shackle kids to abusive parents and puts a lot of pressure on familial units who aren't big enough to support a major problem such as long term care for an elderly person which might bankrupt the children or seriously disrupt their earnings while they care for the elderly.

In spite of all that, Nordic kids score vary high on various child rearing measures.

On a side note, Luciom makes the same mistake seemingly all people who want to make cultural explanations do when talking about the nexus of Asians and Americans. That is selection bias. The Asians that are here are usually from the upper classes in their original countries and it's the fact of higher income that's confounding all these other factors. It may seem like being more family oriented may bring higher income but, in China, there's a pretty common issue that the lower class children leave the villages to make better money and when their parents get sick traditionally they're supposed to leave their good paying job and tend to them which bankrupts the kids because they're not working (remember there's almost no state support), but now there's an issue that children are continuing to work in their higher paying jobs but paying helpers to tend their parents and that's a source of shame. In other words "family values" lock the lower classes into destitution, but now it's changing to be a less "family values" oriented situation, but more economically liberating one

In the 70's and 80's before i was born there was a large right wing push promoted by religious extremist who of course described themselves as "evangelicals". They are but a small subset of evangelicals but some things have happened since then. When these groups first came on the scene, im talking about focus on the family, jerry fallwell, pat robertson etc. people OVERESTIMATED their influence. they represented a type of christianity from before the 50's and the truth is that that type of thinking was dying whilst these groups fed off of its carcass. They did not control the gop. capitalists and defense contractors did.they did not control the churches. methodists, catholic, and episcopalian leadership werent looking to jerry fallwell for advice so as time went on and the old people who financed pat robertsons fifth pool died off they became a more obvious graft.

And so an interesting thing has happened.Church attendence is way down. and its obvious to anyone observing this situation , like dvaut, that the church has way less influence as a whole on the culture. membership is down and even people who are members are people like me who go once or twice a year and don't really believe everything.
Overland Park kansas is a good example. When i first moved here religion played a big role in everyday life here. Magic the gathering cards were destroyed for being satanic. most kids generally believed in god. people dressed comparitively modestly. conversations with neighbors were tinged with religiousity, i.e things were blessed or blasphemous. gays were non existant( because 20 years ago it would have been very dangerous to come out here)

Now no one cares about that stuff. most people dont ever go to church. i dont.
no one cares if you play mtg althugh of coruse thats quite nerdy. no one cares if youre gay.no one cares if you watch pornhub. no one cares if you have a 666 shirt. noone talks in a relgious manner. There are people who care about these things of course but they dont talk about them anymore.
So what has happened is the community as they percieve it has gone away. they have become a minority and no longer shape their community they just live in it.
So now that church has no impact the churches that are actually growing are conservative. the more moderate churches are dying out because they are pointless to the average person they dont ask anything of their members and they talk about love and tolerance in their sermons you know the actual stuff jesus talked about. Understand if youre like some guy from san franscisco in a typical church no one says anything right wing. theres a choir, theres a sermon about finding inner peace in times of struggle, the pastor makes a dad joke about how hard it is to raise a family, and they talk about helping the poor.


but there are these other churches, a minority, that ARE NOT like that. where god is angry , god demands certain things, members have to do things to fight homosexuality, diversity, drugs, islam etc. And those are the churches that are growing because they actually demand something of their members and stand out as apart from what you would hear in normal conversation. they provide meaning to the meaningless. so now weve reached a point where since their activities are no longer connected to what happens on tv or the community these far right evangelicals are actually underestimated. fallwell, pat robertson, focus on the family stuff- they arent entirely without influence and everything they do is basically radicalized and effectively invisible.

my point is very similar, though not identical, to the point dvaut was making but i got bored while typing it because it took me longer than 20 minutes. so i cant fully flesh it out but you get the idea.

https://twitter.com/conradhackett/st...82477018578944

I’m convinced no one understood my post. O well nice try anyway.

Who tore down any churches? Nobody is stopping those from attending who want to.

I didn't realize churches were gone. Or wait...they're not. You seem to be forgetting the Establishment clause. Just to going to throw this hot take out here, don't know if anyone's thought of it yet, but maybe if certain church leaders wanted to stop hemorrhaging members, then they should stop molesting children.

They were 80% right about HRC which is pretty incredible seeing as they mostly think she eats babies.