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10-31-2017 , 08:46 PM

#576

pokerchris

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Hillary Clinton discredited victims.

That is different than having an opinion.

ANd yes, committing sexual assault is worse than talking about it. BOOM

10-31-2017 , 08:46 PM

#577

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by pokerchris

and his foreign policy is completely lame, borrowing from the Hillary play book.

Libertarians are not against borders (wall)

Gorsuch was a great pick. Most LIbertarians agree.

Regulations have been rolled back.

Anthem protesting, I don't really care. Was over the top there.

Players have a right to protest, owners have a right to fire them for such. Libertarian view point.

Yo, can we get an IP check on this guy? "Play book" and "view point" and a general inability to use paragraphs properly seem like tells.

10-31-2017 , 08:53 PM

#578

jsb235

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

YES! I think committing sexual assault is drastically and insanely worse than having a bad opinion about it!!!!! How do you not think that?!?!?!

She didn't "have a bad opinion" about it. She vigorously defended a person accused by multiple women of sexual improprieties, and doubled down on that viewpoint by staying married to him.

I don't think she should be held accountable for the behavior of her spouse. But I do think she should be held accountable for her response to the behavior of her spouse.

And if that response is "It's fine with me," I think that is pretty close to being just as bad as the transgression itself.

10-31-2017 , 08:59 PM

#579

pokerchris

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BahI wasEnglihsliteraturemajorparagrphsandgrammarcomple telyoverrated

10-31-2017 , 09:28 PM

#580

batair

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What about Hillary!!

10-31-2017 , 09:29 PM

#581

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Originally Posted by jsb235

She didn't "have a bad opinion" about it. She vigorously defended a person accused by multiple women of sexual improprieties, and doubled down on that viewpoint by staying married to him.

That was your framing - committing assault vs. condoning it. And yes, the act of COMMITTING SEXUAL ASSAULT is vastly worse than "condoning" it, or "vigorously defending a person accused by multiple women of sexual improprieties", or however the **** you want to put it.

And once again, this all started with you posting the very dumb take that Hillary supporters = Trump supporters, because Hillary condoned assault. So does every Donald Trump supporter that posts vigorous defenses of him on the ****ing internet!!

10-31-2017 , 09:40 PM

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jsb235

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

And once again, this all started with you posting the obvious conclusion that Hillary supporters = Trump supporters, because Hillary condoned assault.

Fixed your post again, since, on this issue, I don't see anyone able to claim the moral high ground.

10-31-2017 , 09:46 PM

#583

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Your argument suggests that levels of indirection don't matter, which is idiotic. You can't support someone else who condoned sexual assault, or else you are...exactly the same as people who directly, themselves condone sexual assault? Yeah, no, **** off with that.

10-31-2017 , 09:47 PM

#584

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by pokerchris

Hillary Clinton discredited victims.

That is different than having an opinion.

ANd yes, committing sexual assault is worse than talking about it. BOOM

SO DO TRUMP SUPPORTERS! SO DID THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION LIKE 2 DAYS AGO!

10-31-2017 , 10:21 PM

#585

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Overrated Meryl Streep got all those Oscar nominations from Weinstein movies and never spoke out against abuses of Weinstein.

Way to enable!

10-31-2017 , 10:50 PM

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Using your logic, Harvey weinstein is like trump. Meryl Streep/Hillary are like you/jbs. **** trump and Weinstein, the rest of you lot are ****ty selfish people but not criminals.

Got it now?

10-31-2017 , 11:06 PM

#587

TiltedDonkey

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How the **** did we start talking about Hillary Clinton. JFC pokerchris you are massive AIDS.

10-31-2017 , 11:29 PM

#588

batair

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Look over there....

10-31-2017 , 11:45 PM

#589

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You can't talk about sexual harassment at the highest level without discussing Bill Clinton.

Want to ignore that fact, you a sheep.

10-31-2017 , 11:48 PM

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President Obama, I disagree with him, good man.

Both Bushes, good men. Want to attack a mentally disabled man confined to a wheel chair, I take it on. And the heat for his stupid joke. Assume that those that insult that man, with no history of sexual harassment till he is 90 years old have no experience with alzheimers.

10-31-2017 , 11:48 PM

#591

microbet

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We should probably talk about FDR's affair while were at it.

10-31-2017 , 11:51 PM

#592

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by pokerchris

HW admitted to committing sexual assault. W started a war based on lies that led to hundreds of thousands of dead people. Not good men.

10-31-2017 , 11:57 PM

#593

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An old man making a bad joke who was not threatening.

If this is the face of sexual harassment, it demeans the entire issue.

Your comments on W don't belong here. Have lots of opinions on him, but not a harasser.

11-01-2017 , 12:01 AM

#594

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Originally Posted by pokerchris

You can't talk about sexual harassment at the highest level without discussing Bill Clinton.

Want to ignore that fact, you a sheep.

Ok. Bill was scum and probably sexually assaulted women.

Now can we talk about the guy in the white house who said he did. The guy who has had accusations from everyone from his wife to 12 and 13 year olds. Nah.

11-01-2017 , 12:02 AM

#595

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Let's get the bad guys.

The real bad guys.

Weinstein
Toback

The rest will fall.

11-01-2017 , 12:49 AM

#596

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No Bill O'Reilly or Eric Bolling Hollywood types of their ilk? Why do allegations and accusations work for you when its liberal ones but not the other way around when its trump?

Sounds like im not the only one getting sheared.

11-01-2017 , 12:58 AM

#597

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O'Reilly, as far as I understand is not being criminally proecuted.

Eric Bolling, not really paying that much attention too. Is it criminal, or is he just a creep?

The original post, which I stand by, was based on exposing all of Hollywood as frauds for critizing anyone.

I believe Meryl Streep to be slime who had to know, had to know! what was going on with her Oscar producing producer. She was silent, and the hypocrite used her bully pulpit to criticize the President.

11-01-2017 , 01:03 AM

#598

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and, pretty sure, Corey Feldman is going to expose all of Hollywood. I believe every big star, director knew what was happening in terms of sexual abuse and pedophile but stayed silent. The same people that get awards every year and criticize Libertarian ideology.

11-01-2017 , 01:07 AM

#599

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Not being criminally prosecuted did not stop you from convicting Bill Clinton and taking about him as an assaulter.

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Hillary Clinton discredited actual victims of sexual assault.

It does with trump. And others i guess.

11-01-2017 , 01:45 AM

#600

batair

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Its good this is getting as much light as it is because its been an issue in Hollywood for a long time. Anywhere there are powerful men it is going to be. Thing is i dont think you really care outside its a good tool.

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