I'm pretty sure Chris' tongue was firmly in his cheek when he wrote that, but I also don't think there's really much wrong with thinking that good sexual conduct is something to be practiced. It goes along nicely with the idea that we should be teaching men not to rape, rather than blaming victims, right? I imagine that's what Chris had in mind.

I guess there's this weird disconnect where on the one hand it feels like the basic outline of what behavior is acceptable or not should be so obvious that it's ridiculous to talk about learning not to act badly, even facetiously. On the other hand, it's also pretty clear that many men are not so clear on this that they don't need to be told, and that bad behavior is very culturally ingrained and accepted. That's basically the concept of rape culture in a nutshell. It makes sense to me that part of changing that culture is getting (cis, white, middle class) men to consciously reflect on these issues, and that means talking about them. From that perspective I feel like there may be some value to that sort of post, even if it feels a little awkward?

Obviously this.

What I took from Chris story is that he went out of his way to pick up an overly intoxicated girl and whatever his plans were they were interrupted by running into her friends.

Read much?

A guest on Bill Maher brought up this Maya Angelou quote in regards to this. It’s pretty perfect.

Obviously I don't want a medal, nothing about the situation was even slightly difficult or ambiguous for me. "Not raping women skills" is sarcastic for that reason, I'm saying it wasn't exactly hard to see what to do. I posted it because I haven't had this kind of situation at this age before and it got me thinking about things around it. One of which was how poorly educated I was about these issues in high school, I feel like we do a really bad job here.

I posted the above a page behind, so not having read the posts on this page. While "not raping women skills" was kind of meant sarcastically, it's also an honest description of what happened. For instance I can't post the story as "I could have hooked up with this girl and didn't!" because what I mean by "hooked up with" there is "raped". That's the thing.

So I wanted to post the story because it was a curious little adventure that happened to me at this festival and got me thinking about this thread, but "I had a choice between raping this woman and not and I chose not to" is the only honest way I can post it, because that's what happened.

This makes DA Cy Vance look way way worse.

The SVU commander turned around the NY SVU and had a clearance rate double the rest of the country by implementing new procedures and had to hide Harvey Weinstein's victim from the DA because they suspected Vance was trying to throw the case and they were right

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...weinstein.html

It's only harassment if the guy is ugly.

I have to admit that I laughed.

Debating lvr is the definition of a waste of time.

https://twitter.com/johnstempinNPR/s...18699784949760

Absolutely nothing is sacred... I mean even Ren and Stimpy

You can see where this is going.... yep underage sexual abuse...he even put it in his art

https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange...1A#.adGjvEem4y

What a ****.

Next you guys will be disparaging Jerry Lee Lewis.

You probably listen to R. Kelly.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...physical-abuse

Eric Schneiderman. JFC.

****ing selfish piece of ****

He was one of the few trying to clean **** up too

Sad that Rs are probably right and establishment dems probably are all sexually depraved weirdos

Pizzagate probably real

Except for every sex scandal on the left there are five on the right.

There doesn't need to be any sex scandals on the left. The right will always have the one that matters to them. Clinton.

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Wookie was all over that ban like Schneiderman sinking a bottle of red. Quick work.

This is outstanding.

https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-abou...e-accusations/

In depth review of the evidence of what false rape accusations look like, and how they are dramatically different from the cases where woman are accused of making it up.

Schneiderman not even really a sex scandal; he just seems like a generally abusive drunk *******.

10% is low?

Also this article basically assumes it's conclusion; if there is a problem it would largely be with accusations that are false but that we don't know are false, and stuff like is basically meaningless as the factors that make rape so difficult to prosecute in general would also make exonerations more difficult.

All of that being said, the premise (that false rape accusations are not a large problem in America today) is likely correct.

From a brief search it appears that way more people are convicted of rape in the US than are convicted of murder. What are you talking about?

Uh, a commonly (correctly) referenced problem is that fact that rapes are notoriously difficult to prove, often because the cases hinge on he-said she-said testimony where the fact there was sex is not disputed but the consent is.

Exoneration would be ~impossible in these cases. Exoneration relies on new physical evidence or something of the sort.

Murder cases and rape cases are two completely different animals and comparing # of exonerations is basically completely non-instructive.