Is there a sexual harassment conversation to be had? - Page 124 - Politics and Economics

This is lol on its face, but even more so is the underlying message that doing the right thing about sexual harassment is somehow a sneaky trick Dems use to buy goodwill.

01-30-2018 , 06:39 PM

#3077

Pwn_Master

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The chances that Ds would hold that Senate seat until 2020 was 100% if they swept Franken's harrassment to the side. It is now ~70%, but let's be stingy and say 80%.

Even 20% chance of losing a Senate seat is significant in politics, and after acknowledging that you cannot argue with a straight face that they are just doing it because there is nothing to lose.

01-30-2018 , 06:50 PM

#3078

JudgeHoldem

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Sweeping it to the side didn’t work for Roy Moore

01-30-2018 , 06:52 PM

#3079

stinkubus

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Playing grab-ass and statutory rape are not at all equivalent.

01-30-2018 , 07:19 PM

#3080

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Um, Roy Moore hadn't been elected yet. Franken was re-elected in 2014, and could not be removed from his seat until 2020 unless Ds forced him out. Starting to think Goofy was wrong about you, and you are just completely and totally uninformed. Which I guess is better than the alternative.

01-30-2018 , 07:23 PM

#3081

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwn_Master

pretty hard to lose as a R in Bama these days

IMO dems realized punting Franken early was the most +ev move. Wasn’t worth the headache. I’m not saying that Rs didn’t make a mountain out of a molehill which they did. But in today’s climate accusations have consequences

Of course goofy made assumptions, so condescending

01-31-2018 , 11:10 AM

#3082

PTLou

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-30/casino-regulators-have-power-to-force-steve-wynn-from-industry

This will likely turn out very badly for Wynn.

General consensus amongst most US regulators is that sex crimes are unforgivable. They could easily yank his personal license.

Given his ongoing battle with his ex wife and other large shareholders, this will bring entirely new level of drama to Wynn Resort Board meetings.

01-31-2018 , 02:16 PM

#3083

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LOL

you gotta warn us when you're linking to nsfw pdfs

02-03-2018 , 12:34 AM

#3084

ScreaminAsian

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https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/stat...19485630742529

02-07-2018 , 07:20 AM

#3085

spaceman Bryce

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Hi rugby im interested in hearing more about your opinions on this issue. you are very insightful and intelligent.

02-08-2018 , 05:37 PM

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Three former employees of the famed Cato Institute say they were sexually harassed by Ed Crane, the 73-year-old co-founder and president emeritus of the think tank and one of the most recognizable figures in the libertarian movement.

One former employee said Crane asked her to take off her bra. Another said he compared her breasts to pornographic images on his computer. A third said he sent her an email on breast augmentation. Crane also settled an additional sexual harassment claim by a former employee in 2012, her lawyer confirmed to POLITICO.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...assment-398989

02-09-2018 , 11:35 AM

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Catching up:

* If anyone's wondering about it, I have seen the infamous S****y Media Men spreadsheet after a recent trip to NYC. As many have probably imagined, it's a mix of bobman-style petty grievances ("we went out to lunch at work and he FLIRTED WITH ME ZOMG") and really, really serious allegations (sexual assault, domestic violence). I certainly won't be reading The New Yorker's music criticism anymore.

* I think Katie Roiphe raises some valid points. Women are not a hivemind, and women do not have to be feminists. And I think feminists who respond to criticism from other women with rage and insults are obviously doing more of a disservice to #MeToo than the critics do by raising doubts. I don't think being insulted on the internet is the same thing as being "silenced," but trolls suck & it's embarrassing that prominent media women associated with the movement are so quick to resort to 4chan-level trolling, to say nothing of Nicole Cliffe spending thousands of dollars out of pocket in an attempt to suppress the piece's publication.

* What Aziz did was not sexual assault, but it certainly makes him a raging hypocrite.

* A similar charge of hypocrisy goes for Hillary. Pretty hilarious to paint yourself as the champion of women and girls the world over then handle a known sexual harasser with kid gloves while arguably also punishing the victim.

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02-09-2018 , 11:39 AM

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We're organizing workplace pervs into spreadsheets now? JFC, there's way more of this workplace harassment than I ever realized.

02-09-2018 , 11:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DrModern

if anyone's wondering, you don't have to go to NYC to see the ****ty media men list. i assume it's probably not cool to link to it directly, but if you google '****ty media men pastebin' it'll pop right up.

some of the allegations you can't really tell how serious they are (like saying 'workplace harassment' or 'inappropriate behavior' without elaborating), but most of them are extremely serious.

02-09-2018 , 11:55 AM

#3090

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

We're organizing workplace pervs into spreadsheets now? JFC, there's way more of this workplace harassment than I ever realized.

Mitt Romney organizes them in binders.

02-09-2018 , 12:06 PM

#3091

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Originally Posted by Kafja

Legitimately did not know this. I'm old, I guess.

02-09-2018 , 05:55 PM

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California state legislator who made sexual harassment complaints now herself subject to sexual harassment allegations

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But Daniel Fierro of Cerritos told POLITICO that in 2014, as a 25-year-old staffer to Assemblyman Ian Calderon, he was groped by Garcia, a powerful Democratic lawmaker who chairs the Legislative Women’s Caucus and the Natural Resources Committee.

He said she cornered him alone after the annual Assembly softball game in Sacramento as he attempted to clean up the dugout. Fierro, who said Garcia appeared inebriated, said she began stroking his back, then squeezed his buttocks and attempted to touch his crotch before he extricated himself and quickly left.

And then this is amazing

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Fierro is not the only one claiming improper advances by Garcia.
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The lobbyist, who represents a major industry association, said that Garcia appeared to have been drinking heavily at a fundraiser hosted by Governor Jerry Brown for state Senator Josh Newman at the de Veres bar in Sacramento. He said he was heading out the door in part to avoid the assemblywoman — who had been increasingly “flirtatious” and had called him on a few occasions before for late night drinks which he repeatedly declined.

She spotted him and said,“Where are you going?” the lobbyist said.

“She came back and was whispering real close and I could smell the booze and see she was pretty far gone,’’ he said. “She looked at me for a second and said, “I’ve set a goal for myself to **** you.”

At that point, Garcia “stepped in front of me and reaches out and is grabbing for my crotch,’’ he said. That was “the line in the sand,” according to the lobbyist, and he stopped her.

Quote:

The Sacramento lobbyist never formally reported the matter out of concern for his clients.

But his account of the groping incident was corroborated by another high profile political operative in Sacramento, who declined to be named for publication. She said at the time the lobbyist was both angered and “humiliated” by the encounter, and disturbed that his sexual rejection of Garcia could have implications for his industry.

02-10-2018 , 01:38 AM

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02-10-2018 , 08:50 AM

#3094

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Hmm

02-10-2018 , 10:33 PM

#3095

rugby

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45 minutes into the netflix documentary on Gloria Allred. "Seeing Allred" and its really good.

She seems to be fairly reviled, but its.never quite clear exactlu what for...

02-11-2018 , 03:46 PM

#3096

fatboy8

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Originally Posted by Schlitz mmmm

Man, that dude is Cook E Jarr if he went even more white trash.

02-27-2018 , 09:45 AM

#3097

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I’m not buying these Ryan Seacrest accusations.

02-27-2018 , 10:23 AM

#3098

rugby

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Originally Posted by Praetor1an

I’m not buying these Ryan Seacrest accusations.

Why?

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/26/170557...lt-suzie-hardy

From that link. There is apparantly a corroborating witness to the story of him grabbing her crotch, as well as a photo of her ass being smacked so hard it left a mark...