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Is there a sexual harassment conversation to be had? Is there a sexual harassment conversation to be had?

10-19-2017 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
Do you guys really think iron81 deserves to lose the ability to practice his profession just because he made a woman temporarily feel uncomfortable?
I do. Apparently, this is a big problem and the Weinstein's of the world will be getting away with it for the foreseeable future. The only way to deter anyone is to come down hard on the people you do catch.
10-19-2017 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
The sewer cleaner is only payed more than the EMT worker for the very reason that cleaning up sh*t is considered a turn off by women.
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
Women and men very much like the idea of trading a low energy activity for the ability to acquire the proceeds of a high energy output.
You are literally unable to see anything from a female perspective, and this is the root problem with harassment. You just have no f***ing idea how or what women think, and moreover, you clearly don't care to have one.
10-19-2017 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
the modern woman must now subject herself to tedious fields like engineering and accounting. No wonder depression and suicide rates for Western world women are at all time highs. Just submit, let us let you live the good life again. We're begging you to take our money! The only question is, are you woman enough to take it?


If they would only get back in the kitchen and take a little mothers helper.
10-19-2017 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by iron81

I was fired from my engineering job for harassing a woman. My harassment amounted to hinting in a non crude way that I was attracted to her and looking at her computer screen which contained an IM conversation with her boyfriend. They were also unwilling to give me a reference, thus that was the end of my career.
I hate to sound like a dick, but there has to be more to the story than this.
10-19-2017 , 09:27 AM
I agree, but I don't remember, other than to say it wasn't a prolonged campaign of harassment and I don't think I'm forgetting anything much more egregious.

I'm beginning to see it was unwise to make myself an example, given that there are gaps in my story. Also because it's embarrassing.

Last edited by iron81; 10-19-2017 at 09:49 AM.
10-19-2017 , 09:27 AM
Ya, literally zero chance any big company would terminate employment over something that minor. I'm not certain that one off hand remark even meets any legal standard of harassment.

Just saw Iron's reply and LOL. You don't remember salient details of an episode which ruined your career? GTFO.
10-19-2017 , 09:41 AM
Usually a person who I meet has to tell me their name 5-6 times before I remember it.
10-19-2017 , 11:04 AM
maybe you were fired for being a terrible engineer then? generally engineers are required to keep track of important details and that seems to be an admitted problem for you.
10-19-2017 , 11:31 AM
Maybe, but certainly not officially. I would think their lawyer would rather fire me for poor performance rather than harassment.
10-19-2017 , 12:02 PM
look man, I genuinely felt bad for you and that was kinda low blow.

but you gotta realize how your subsequent responses made you appear. like, you really cant remember details of a life changing event? and you think that is somehow comparable to not remember the name of some rando you just met?

seems theres a disconnect and maybe you should strongly think about how you view reality and interactions. maybe seek professional help and examine your interactions and your reality with someone qualified when they are still fresh in your mind.
10-19-2017 , 12:34 PM
The disproportionate lack of empathy towards the Irons of the world is definitely a problem and 100% leads to even more sexual harassment.

Stop all the ****ing cynicism, it's not helping. All the questioning and disbelief in his story is exactly how people try to pick apart women when they share their experiences.
10-19-2017 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
The disproportionate lack of empathy towards the Irons of the world is definitely a problem and 100% leads to even more sexual harassment.

Stop all the ****ing cynicism, it's not helping. All the questioning and disbelief in his story is exactly how people try to pick apart women when they share their experiences.
I can't tell if you're being facetious or stupid.
10-19-2017 , 12:54 PM
.Alex. throwing down some negs itt.
10-19-2017 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
I hate to sound like a dick, but there has to be more to the story than this.
I hate to sound like a dick, but you're a ****ing moron if you think this never happens.
10-19-2017 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
The disproportionate lack of empathy towards the Irons of the world is definitely a problem and 100% leads to even more sexual harassment.

Stop all the ****ing cynicism, it's not helping. All the questioning and disbelief in his story is exactly how people try to pick apart women when they share their experiences.
wat

also, he is questioning his own ****ing story.

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I'm beginning to see it was unwise to make myself an example, given that there are gaps in my story.
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I don't think I'm forgetting anything much more egregious
10-19-2017 , 01:08 PM
Yep women also start to question themselves when no one is willing to believe their story.
10-19-2017 , 01:19 PM
lololol

so much self snitching in your last three posts
10-19-2017 , 01:26 PM
With online dating, school, church, meetups, shared friends, there are more than enough non-work venues for finding dates. But let's say someone is convinced that a person at work is the one for them. Is there a non-creepy, non-harassing way to proceed?
10-19-2017 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Man of Means
With online dating, school, church, meetups, shared friends, there are more than enough non-work venues for finding dates. But let's say someone is convinced that a person at work is the one for them. Is there a non-creepy, non-harassing way to proceed?
for some people, at some places of work, certainly. but, generally, if you gotta ask about yourself, then its proly not for you.
10-19-2017 , 01:35 PM
Damn how is it that I've been watching Louis for years and had no idea about any of those rumors?
10-19-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Man of Means
With online dating, school, church, meetups, shared friends, there are more than enough non-work venues for finding dates. But let's say someone is convinced that a person at work is the one for them. Is there a non-creepy, non-harassing way to proceed?
if 'the one for you' coworker is someone you actually know and talk to and get along with, asking if they want to get a drink after work or w/e is fine (obv 'drink after work' isn't necessarily a date). if drink after work goes well, ask her to dinner at the weekend (which obviously is a date). whether she says yes or no, no sane person would consider this progression of events wrong or harassment. there are plenty of variations on this for people who are socially competent.

if 'the one for you' coworker is someone you don't know at all, but just lust after from across the office because she's omg hot, and if you're kind of ham-fisted with social interactions, danger! you're about to **** up! better to not say anything than wander up to an almost-stranger during coffee break and say 'uhhhhhh I just have to say uhhh, you look really good in that skirt uhh, you're really beautiful, how about we do something sometime haha?' if you do that, don't be surprised when HR comes calling.
10-19-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
maybe you were fired for being a terrible engineer then? generally engineers are required to keep track of important details and that seems to be an admitted problem for you.
Engineers are a different breed. While there are some things that we have very good memory recall with social graces are not one of them.
10-19-2017 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by raradevils
Engineers are a different breed. While there are some things that we have very good memory recall with social graces are not one of them.
dude I am an engineer. this is just garbage.
10-19-2017 , 02:09 PM
Holy ****, this is excellent trolling.
10-19-2017 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
dude I am an engineer. this is just garbage.
so am i

      
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