Teacher strikes in WV, OK, KY, etc - Page 7 - Politics and Economics

All this talk about proper teacher motivation is cute but if your teachers are teaching out of 20 year old moldy books in a classroom that's falling apart all for low pay then it's all for naught.

04-11-2018 , 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

All this talk about proper teacher motivation is cute but if your teachers are teaching out of 20 year old moldy books in a classroom that's falling apart all for low pay then it's all for naught.

likewise if they are working 2 jobs and struggling to put food on the table.

the solution is really simple. pay teachers more. we have the money.

04-11-2018 , 09:26 AM

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Just to reiterate, OK teachers and schools need and deserve more money.

04-11-2018 , 09:28 AM

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OK gubmint appears fine with never reopening their schools again if it means not giving their teachers raises

04-11-2018 , 11:11 AM

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I mean, donald trump exclaimed I love the poorly educated people.

04-11-2018 , 09:34 PM

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OK gubmint appears fine with never reopening their schools again if it means not giving their teachers raises

They are. Our governor is the biggest **** on the planet, and our right wing government only cares about rich white folks and oil companies.

04-12-2018 , 02:22 PM

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I suspect you'll hear a lot less frothing from Republicans and more concern trolling as per this right wing Koch network playbook to use against the strikes.

https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...ategy-revealed

We've already heard one point mentioned in the article in here, talking about pay increases to teachers and teacher strikes harm low income families.

04-12-2018 , 03:06 PM

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I find the current standoff in Oklahoma pretty fascinating. GOP refused to veto a hotel tax repeal bill and won't take up a new capital gains tax.

Seems like something has to give rather quickly. Having kids out of school indefinitely creates absolute chaos. Support for teachers is polling at 70%+.

04-12-2018 , 03:18 PM

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I'd also go back to my OP to say that I will not be surprised if an ironic outcome is that ultimately states may seek a concession from teachers in agreement for their demands that the conditions under which they strike in the future be formalized with known rules of engagement.

You know.. like a union.

04-12-2018 , 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Not a secret. Used in WV. Failed miserably both because it is weak and because GOPers can't stop themselves from slipping and showing their true colors.

In WV the teachers organized and to some extent funded a program to feed children who were dependent on the free school lunch. This sort of flipped that narrative.

Plus, stuff has gotten so bad that nobody was going to be able to gaslight teachers into thinking they might be in the wrong because what about the children. Just wasn't going to happen, and without that this tactic falls flat.

04-12-2018 , 11:44 PM

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Not anywhere close to enough to keep teachers in the OK public schools.

Way to shoot yourself in the foot OK. Lol. Engineers and oil workers might actually stay in your boondocks state if their kids could get a decent education. Instead, they'll just suck oil money out of state and pump it straight into whatever livable state with decent schools they actually raise their children at.

Good ****ing job.

04-13-2018 , 12:02 AM

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If you're wondering what set off Grizy's rant above, the OK teachers called off their action without getting additional concessions.

04-13-2018 , 12:19 AM

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So Lexington schools are off today for the teachers to go protest. Not sure if anything good will come from it, but give them hell. This video of the committee hearing of the KY pension bill has been making its way around KY social media today. It is worth a watch

04-13-2018 , 10:33 PM

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So governor Matt Bevin gave his thoughts on the teachers protesting today...

Yes, he just insinuated that teachers are somehow responsible for child sexual assault because they peacefully protested in Frankfort

04-14-2018 , 03:00 PM

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i cant believe he is a republican.

04-14-2018 , 03:28 PM

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"Hanging out, smoking, leaving trash around, and leaving kids home alone to get molested."

What a ****ing douchebag.

04-14-2018 , 04:04 PM

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Do these strikes change any of your minds about whether economically progressive candidates are viable in places like West Virginia?

04-14-2018 , 04:06 PM

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TIWRAB

04-14-2018 , 10:00 PM

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The Bevin thing is right out of the Koch playbook linked above.

04-15-2018 , 12:54 AM

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Do these strikes change any of your minds about whether economically progressive candidates are viable in places like West Virginia?

Pro-labor is definitely viable in West Virginia. Just not the way most of the left would go about it. Pro-labor sentiment runs deep.

The WV strike gave Richard Ojeda a huge signal boost, and he's pretty much reading my mind as to how I figure a labor progressive could win. If he manages to win WV-3, then he's the guy people need to listen to about this.

04-21-2018 , 04:20 AM

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the solution is really simple. pay teachers more. we have the money.

It's only partly the problem. You need elementary school teachers that actually know mathematics. If you can't add fractions, you can't teach children to add fractions. You need teachers with decent training. Most don't have enough. If you haven't studied physics in the university and gotten good grades doing it, and can't pass something approximating PhD quals, you probably shouldn't be teaching physics in high school. Same for nearly every discipline.

No one would put up with a head football coach who hadn't played football.

04-21-2018 , 09:18 AM

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If only higher pay and attracting better candidates were connected somehow.

04-21-2018 , 10:00 AM

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Not that I knew this, but it was begging for a googling: Todd Haley, Head Coach of the KC Chiefs.

04-21-2018 , 11:12 AM

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The NFL is rife with nepotism, and his father was involved with the Steelers during the 70s.

04-15-2019 , 08:31 AM

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Necroing thread but don't know where else this would go.

Rural schools having trouble finding teachers.

Get qualified English speaking teachers but their visas will expire.

Immigration, education, poverty, and racial segregation (not explicitly talked about but Shelby is definitely a low-income neighborhood that's almost 100% white) issues all in one video. If there were a poster child for rural white America that's getting left behind but not quite dead yet, this is it.

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