It has everything to do with it. The premise for continuing the war (which is itself in doubt as this farcical staged bombing of sites at least 2/3 of which probably did not have chemical weapons materials in them, probably none as the UN supervised the destruction - note the conspiracy theorists saying 'well Assad obviously acquired more from, er, North Korea cos he is bad. Kim is bad. Pootin is bad) is the same old Wmd line to rally the liberal establishment around a' legitimate' humanitarian goal, Obamas red line. Conventional bombs good. Chemical bombs bad.

One for those who excuse Assad and Russian actions by claiming there are no good guys.

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/co...-guys-in-syria

watch the whole thing but particularly 19 mins in, re white helmets facade and the real life rescuers, teachers, doctors etc

Nope. I have no intention of watching a shill who's 'proudest moment' was meeting Assad.

It's incredible the sources you're having to hang your coat on here.

you're a bad fake husker. That is a British journalist who has been on the ground in Syria for years speaking with a Syrian citizen in refuge. If you bothered to listen to these real voices you would realise these people are not 'Assad supporters' they are exposing the struggle of Syrians to defend their civil society, trying to rebuild a country, educate their kids, and stop a western and Saudi funded year zero Jihadist coup. Stop being a moron. Just lol at refusing to watch it as well, pretty much says it all.

white helmets exposed, come on guys, this is authentic.
James Le Mesurier recruiting in Latin America and elsewhere to promote more fake first responders in other conflicts to excuse US interventions

Tomj,

You probably should drop this piece of rhetoric btw.

In terms of a red flag of deplorable opinions, it's right up there with starting off a conversation about race with "I have black friends, but . . . ."

You are already flaunting the personal attack rule. If you don't have a reputable citation for this claim about white helmets in written, not YouTube form, then you are facing a ban and likely exile for conspiracy garbage.

Re 'On the ground', to quote a real journalist "“When they say ‘we’re on the ground’, what they actually mean is they’ve been escorted to government-held zones."

As I said, her 'proudest moment' (her words not mine) was meeting Assad.

Keep embarrasing yourself though, it's hugely entertaining.

This is silly on many levels.

Beeley, not involved with the Syrian govt at all, definitely not...



https://twitter.com/ShehabiFares/sta...023169/photo/1

wookie guy said 'reputable' husker. insta ban imo.

you see this is the kind of idiocy (attacking the argument there not the man) you get for not consuming proper media. There is a civil war going on there.

Lol, I should have just gone to snopes myself

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sy...re-terrorists/

I know. I know. You are "just seeking the truth" (i.e., just asking questions).

From RationalWiki on just asking questions:

"The term is derived from the frequent claim by the questioner that they are "just asking questions," albeit in a manner much the same as political push polls. Additionally, this tactic is a way for a crank to escape the burden of proof behind extraordinary claims.

In some cases, it also helps hide the nebulousness or absurdity of the questioner's own views. For example, a 9/11 truther may ask questions about perceived irregularities in the collapse, Larry Silverstein saying "pull it," and the plane that hit the Pentagon. If turned back around on the truther, the implication is that they think that the plot involved numerous bizarre complications (rigging three buildings with explosives, making an on-the-spot decision to instruct the FDNY to detonate one of them, replacing a plane with a missile and later littering the Pentagon with plane wreckage). By not having to propose their own hypothesis, they can come across as smoothly winning a debate, since the other person is unable to answer a "just being asked" question. In fact, it can be very useful to "just ask questions" of woos, inasmuch as getting woos to put a hypothesis forward (or even just admitting to believing something crazy) can be a worthy accomplishment.

The questioner may claim they are playing devil's advocate. This is frequently to advance an odious position with no shortage of existing advocates."

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

Sound familiar?

What is proper media?

I have a really shallow understanding of what is going on in Syria. What is this pic trying to say? American media is the enemy? American media is part of the problem? I'm confused.

It's s pic from a Syrian government official showing their pet journalists shooting down the supposed myths created by the Western media

Come on Tom

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry...b03c426dad48a9

Well, that saved me having to post that. Beeley is a weirdo who was picked up and given a platform by the Kremlin. She is not an 'independent journalist', or even a journalist at all.

Also, this, obviously:-

http://www.syriauk.org/2017/02/beeley-in-bristol.html

https://youtu.be/_HLjC53emUM

Recent interview with Assad himself, pretty interesting watch. Not saying hes a good human being, but he makes some good logical points.

TYT take:

They obviously aren't even trying very hard with their propaganda. The journalists in the balloons don't appear to be staging events, just having a good vantage point to take pictures is enough to warrant getting shot down I guess.

You missed the telephone line between the western journalists balloon and the balloons of Al-Nursa and Al-Qaeda. Their just reporting what the Jihadists are telling them?

That's part of my confusion. If they're all connected, why shoot down the journalists? Are they implying the media is worse than the actors? Are the actors being misrepresented? What?

soooo....looks like I was right.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/famed-...gassed/240660/

You could have at least linked to the original article :

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8307726.html