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04-13-2018 , 09:38 PM
04-13-2018 , 09:38 PM
04-14-2018 , 06:13 AM


Damage seems limited.

Trump is doing things to serve the crumbling US empire but May and Macron are ****ing maggots
04-14-2018 , 06:33 AM
The voice of reason these days comes from lol Fox news, that's how low the US have fallen

04-14-2018 , 07:14 AM
No they're not the voice of reason. When the Fox News, Alex Jones, and Richard Spencer are all on the same page, you can be 100% sure that being on the other side is correct and that you'll look like an idiot soon enough if you're on their side.
04-14-2018 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
No they're not the voice of reason. When the Fox News, Alex Jones, and Richard Spencer are all on the same page, you can be 100% sure that being on the other side is correct and that you'll look like an idiot soon enough if you're on their side.
how really smart people do politics

must be tiring having to check what richard spencer and alex jones think of every issue before you're capable of forming an opinion.
04-14-2018 , 07:54 AM
A. I was the first person here saying i was fine with this.

B.. its not hard to read 2p2 and see people posting vids of alex Jones in literal tears
04-14-2018 , 09:43 AM
For every trump statement there is an equal and opposite tweet
04-14-2018 , 01:03 PM
omg

04-14-2018 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
No they're not the voice of reason. When the Fox News, Alex Jones, and Richard Spencer are all on the same page, you can be 100% sure that being on the other side is correct and that you'll look like an idiot soon enough if you're on their side.
It's a pretty effective starting point considering they basically never argue in good faith. If you're not intellectually honest, then you're detached from reality, are you not?
04-14-2018 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by andre006
The voice of reason these days comes from lol Fox news, that's how low the US have fallen
Conclusion:

https://youtu.be/cSGf2ZpDENU?t=264
04-14-2018 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by andre006


Damage seems limited.
It's supposed to be.

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Trump is doing things to serve the crumbling US empire but May and Macron are ****ing maggots
And Assad and Putin are what, apart from your heroes?
04-14-2018 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
\And you and all your kind will be culpable.

wtf is that supposed to mean? what exactly is "my kind"? If by my kind you mean people who don't rely on shallow political/ideological narratives to form their worldviews, then sure, I will gladly be culpable.

you people are crazy if you think Assad is going around gassing farmers in some randy village. have you learned nothing from the past? do you remember Iraq and the WMDs?

Besides we shouldn't need images of dead kids to know this Assad guy's a fkn jerk who deserves to be tried in a court by his own people. but stop pretending to know whats going on just cause you started following politics after Trump won the election and upset your chemical balances.
04-14-2018 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MerginHosOn24s
wtf is that supposed to mean? what exactly is "my kind"? If by my kind you mean people who don't rely on shallow political/ideological narratives to form their worldviews, then sure, I will gladly be culpable.

you people are crazy if you think Assad is going around gassing farmers in some randy village. have you learned nothing from the past? do you remember Iraq and the WMDs?

Besides we shouldn't need images of dead kids to know this Assad guy's a fkn jerk who deserves to be tried in a court by his own people. but stop pretending to know whats going on just cause you started following politics after Trump won the election and upset your chemical balances.
Reading your posts makes me root for the allies to hit Assad again, if only to see you unravel further.

On another note, it seems like the media likes to report Putin or his ambassador condemning us for attacking another sovereign nation and I’m amazed they don’t follow that up with, “Putin recently invaded a sovereign country and annexed a portion of it”. It’s like the media is oblivious to Putin’s mind games which are more than obvious.
04-15-2018 , 01:26 AM
I tend to think the official account of gassing is overwhelmingly likely to be accurate. That said, what steps did the US try to take to investigate? Did Syria and Russia impede an investigation?

Pretty much from here on out any time any nation does something evil, someone's going to chime in and remind everyone there were no WMDs in Iraq.

Last edited by leavesofliberty; 04-15-2018 at 01:42 AM.
04-15-2018 , 01:45 AM
Weapons inspectors got there today. (Or yesterday I guess since it's tomorrow in Syria now)
04-15-2018 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
Did Syria and Russia impede an investigation?
yes, in two senses

journalist access to the site was blocked by russian troops in the immediate aftermath, and about a week ago russia (once again) used its UN veto to block the award of stronger protections and powers to the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons
04-15-2018 , 03:30 PM
UN List of chemical weapons attacks in Syria up till January 18. Note the text at the top, it isn't an exhaustive list it's those that the Commission of Inquiry were able to investigate and met their standard of evidence.

https://i.gyazo.com/0e2703f74e423b57...eddf78d0be.jpg

04-15-2018 , 05:12 PM
Why do the Russians maintain that the chemical attack was fake? Do they not get at least as much from claiming it was done by someone other than the Syrian govt while avoiding the likelihood that irrefutable evidence that will prove them wrong shows up?
04-15-2018 , 05:40 PM
When the refutation is "you're faking it and lying" there's no such thing as irrefutable evidence.
04-15-2018 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Do they not get at least as much from claiming it was done by someone other than the Syrian govt
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Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said on Friday that the United Kingdom played a role in staging what Moscow claims was a fake poison gas attack on the Syrian city of Douma.

Konashenkov told reporters that the Russian military has "proof that testifies to the direct participation of Britain in the organizing of this provocation in Eastern Ghouta." He did not elaborate or immediately present evidence.
anything will do

if anyone is wondering if this **** works on anyone, the answer lies in the uk politarding thread
04-15-2018 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gadgetguru
Reading your posts makes me root for the allies to hit Assad again, if only to see you unravel further.
wow, reading your posts makes it's easy to see why the world is becoming so divided....someone doesn't agree with your views and instantly you give them a simplistic label and lump em into a group of your ideological boogey-men.

sigh, if only you were capable of perceiving the world in a more subtle, nuanced way...you might just learn something. I'm guessing you rather go around patting yourself on the back whilst reaffirming your own opinions?

either way, I just want to point out how I disagree with many of you in this thread and still maintained a civil, intelligent tone. why is this so hard for others?
04-15-2018 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by andre006
The voice of reason these days comes from lol Fox news, that's how low the US have fallen

Ya if you think the news is worth anything other then entertainment and propaganda then the laughs are on you bro. Watching the news in a serious manner is like surfing the internet looking for viruses and spyware to install on your computer.
04-16-2018 , 06:09 AM
A month ago, Russia said the US was planning a chemical attack as a false flag operation to give a pretext for war. Then when the attack actually happened, Russia changed its story to "the UK did it". Not a good look for Russia. Since their story of whodunit is BS, now their psychic-like prediction of the attack makes it look like they knew Assad would do it and were cool with it.
04-16-2018 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by andre006
The voice of reason these days comes from lol Fox news, that's how low the US have fallen

Sense is coming from some unusual places. Notice how the arguments from the anti war lobby are thorough, intelligent and convincing while the liberal war mongers rely on knee jerk emotional responses to images of dying children etc. While ignoring dying Yemeni children, Palestinians and so on.

      
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