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Stanford athlete gets 6 months for rape Stanford athlete gets 6 months for rape

06-07-2016 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
Btw it is true that this guy got a lesser sentence for being a white male. Or lets say really damn likely. I'm not sure how that is even being debated. Just pretend he is a black guy with a tattoo across his face. Then tell me with a straight face that he could get off w 6 months, yeah right.
I'd say his whiteness is likely a big factor in why it happened. The judge probably unconsciously or otherwise identified with and it made him wanted to give "the poor kid a break" But the thing is, is ANYONE debating it? I'm not debating it, and I don't see anyone else debating it.

You again had to do the "white male" thing though. To suggest defendants get less harsh sentences based on maleness is a flat out joke. I really don't know what to say to this.


It seems there is such an ingrained SJW crutch to say "white male" that you guys don't even think about it anymore. I'd friggan rather hear you argue the shorter female sentence are based on "benevolent sexism" then act like being a man helps in a sentencing. The Male-Female sentencing gap is actually BIGGER than the White-Black one.
06-07-2016 , 12:58 AM
And sorry Alex Wice, after your other post its highly unlikely that you are one of these irrational social justice lunatics..... but that just means their way of speaking is spreading to others. I have some medicine for you.... please google Milo Yianapolous and listen carefully
06-07-2016 , 01:01 AM
06-07-2016 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
Btw it is true that this guy got a lesser sentence for being a white male. Or lets say really damn likely. I'm not sure how that is even being debated. Just pretend he is a black guy with a tattoo across his face. Then tell me with a straight face that he could get off w 6 months, yeah right.
I don't think it's so much that this guy was a white male as it is he was a white male from a wealthy family that the judge could identify with. If this guy was white trailer trash from Oregon with tattoos across his face, he wouldn't be getting off with 6 months either.

It's not so much that white people are universally privileged, it's that if you're a suburban white kid who is perceived as a high achiever, you get breaks from the criminal justice system that other people probably wouldn't.
06-07-2016 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Malachii
I don't think it's so much that this guy was a white male as it is he was a white male from a wealthy family that the judge could identify with. If this guy was white trailer trash from Oregon with tattoos across his face, he wouldn't be getting off with 6 months either.

It's not so much that white people are universally privileged, it's that if you're a suburban white kid who is perceived as a high achiever, you get breaks from the criminal justice system that other people probably wouldn't.
I'm somewhere in between both this statement and Alex. A lot of it also depend on the individual judge, who we will never get 100% into the mind of. Whether he'd identify more with a trust fund black kid than with a trailer trash white kid is something we will never know, maybe maybe not. But I think the thing we can ALL agree on is that any favoritism for any traits like this is wrong. To me all that should matter is

1) The Crime
2) Past Criminal History

Color, Sex, Background, Tattoos, etc etc shouldn't

The controversial point is whenever we let a judge decide we're going to have certain levels of favoritism, and I don't think the judge has to be a racist to end up with those bad outcomes. Juries also can show favoritism and on top of it are comprised of 12 idiots so sometimes IDK what the solution should be. I'd possibly be in favor of trial by Watson but that might not go over well with people
06-07-2016 , 01:26 AM
I'd think in this case Watson would have given at least 2 years. Unless he had a software glitch.
06-07-2016 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
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Believe me I am not an SJW lol. The opposite
06-07-2016 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
And sorry Alex Wice, after your other post its highly unlikely that you are one of these irrational social justice lunatics..... but that just means their way of speaking is spreading to others. I have some medicine for you.... please google Milo Yianapolous and listen carefully
Those awful people who believe in fighting for social justice? Yeah, we generally prefer the term activist, but I'll wear an "SJW" insult as a badge of honor any day just as well.
06-07-2016 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
I'm only bringing up the APA because it was pointed out that what I was doing was some kind of crazy thing. I'm obviously not overly concerned with my spelling and grammar but hitting the shift key before Black and White is mostly a force of habit.
It's a habit that seems to correlate exclusively with posting racist vitriol, and I'm just curious where you all pick up the habit. The last guy wouldn't say.
06-07-2016 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
Believe me I am not an SJW lol. The opposite
Racist MRA?
06-07-2016 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
It's a habit that seems to correlate exclusively with posting racist vitriol, and I'm just curious where you all pick up the habit. The last guy wouldn't say.
Obviously from all their scholarly work on the subject.
06-07-2016 , 08:24 AM
Hey, at least they don't use MLA. That would truly be in poor taste.
06-07-2016 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem
Whoever taught you that "everyone thinks you're wrong" = "mob with pitchforks" has failed you badly.
06-07-2016 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
It's a habit that seems to correlate exclusively with posting racist vitriol, and I'm just curious where y'all pick up the habit. The last guy wouldn't say.
It's pseudo-education. Although they are uneducated imbeciles, they fancy themselves smarter than part of the population, and to prove it they capitalize correctly.
06-07-2016 , 09:43 AM
06-07-2016 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Now please Gizmo forgive me my blasphemy. I'll say 10 Hail Women's and 50 I Hate White Scums before I go to bed.
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Brilliant retort!

just wanted to say you're doing a really good job itt
06-07-2016 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I don't know who it was here who first theorized the correlation between capitalizing the word "Black" and semi-literate racist views, but the comorbidity has been 100%.
I think of this as Fly's Theorem, and if he didn't actually originate it, it's his own damn fault.
06-07-2016 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem
The kids life is ruined whether it's 1 day or 20 years
grunching

i guess we could apply this logic to all violent crimes, couldn't we?
06-07-2016 , 11:43 AM
Nauseating reading. Literally shaking with anger reading the two statements. I thought about posting precisely my idea of 'justice' in terms of retribution but I'd soon find myself banned. Suffice to say I'd love to end the perpetrators life at the very least.
06-07-2016 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CityBoy2006
Nauseating reading. Literally shaking with anger reading the two statements. I thought about posting precisely my idea of 'justice' in terms of retribution but I'd soon find myself banned. Suffice to say I'd love to end the perpetrators life at the very least.
You're advocating death for sexual assault? Seems excessive, but then again you're shaking with anger so I guess it's ok.
06-07-2016 , 12:35 PM
lol @ some ******* ruining this heretofor you'd think was so already ruined thread because he got really upset people were talking about white privilege. Go back to POG instantly.
06-07-2016 , 12:44 PM
Letting this guy keep his testicles is a crime against humanity.
06-07-2016 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
lol @ some ******* ruining this heretofor you'd think was so already ruined thread because he got really upset people were talking about white privilege. Go back to POG instantly.
Curses. I had Trolly and Fly in the first to to start crying about 'go back to POG' after you lot did so much to get them here in the first place.
06-07-2016 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CityBoy2006
Nauseating reading. Literally shaking with anger reading the two statements. I thought about posting precisely my idea of 'justice' in terms of retribution but I'd soon find myself banned. Suffice to say I'd love to end the perpetrators life at the very least.
shaking with anger is quite normal as is very much liking the idea of serious harm to the perpetrator. That just makes you human but hopefully you also greatly value justice and liberal values. Having conflicting thoughts/desires is quite normal.

Venting a bit shouldn't get you banned but in the end we have to try hard to put the anger aside when dealing with justice.

      
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